For me, Moyes tried to protect Rooney, but Man Utd got their mits on him

and played him all the time, like Liverpool did with Fowler and Owen

A lot to be said pushing brilliant talent through too quickly

Posted By: pants on November 19th 2007 at 14:25:59

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So, once Becks comes on as a sub and scores a last-gasp 93rd min free-kick to (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:56:25
- 2) - the best at dead ball situations (n/m) (Other Football) - shoddy, Nov 19, 14:11:36
  - Wouldn't it be excellent if they introduced American Football-style substitutions ? (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:12:46
    - They had that in hockey a few years back (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:15:16
      - Yes (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:15:43
- Keep him as a squad player. He's a useful impact sub (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:03:39
  - Great post bf (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 14:24:26
  - You know me! ;-) (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:08:27
  - All you had to do was say 1, 2, or 3... (Other Football) - Yellalee, Nov 19, 14:07:06
  - do players really not recover fully from broken metatarsals? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 14:05:50
    - Yeah, it's killed Rooney and Neville's careers too. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:08:12
      - For me, Moyes tried to protect Rooney, but Man Utd got their mits on him (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 14:25:59
        
        I wonder if that's also the reason Owen gets injured so often (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:31:28
        
        Yeah, I love Owen to bits, such a great forward (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 14:35:35
        
        re last Friday's game - Owen had said he needed games to get match-fit, hadn't he? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 14:46:44
        
        Probably but I still think it was a mistake (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:48:05
        
        you mean, without hindsight? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 14:51:08
        
        I was a bit nervous about it pre-game to be honest (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:52:24
- Beckham is still a match winner for England (Other Football) - HoofinHughes, Nov 19, 14:01:15
  - Agreed (Other Football) - scruffy, Nov 19, 14:46:28
- 3).. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Nov 19, 13:58:34
  - Think that's a couple of years too far... (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:00:06
    - You never know these days though - Dion was 'too old' for us last year... (Other Football) - Yellalee, Nov 19, 14:03:08
      - We're talking World Cup, not bottom of the Fizzy! (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:08:28
        
        Yep - but we're talking a better class of players as well... (Other Football) - Yellalee, Nov 19, 14:13:42
        
        Maldini, atonishing how he can carry on at the top level (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 14:32:07
        
        And still good enough too (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:36:34
        
        A lot to be learnt from their way of life diet etc (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 14:39:14
        
        Stoichkov ? Romario ? Roger Milla ? (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:17:14
        
        That's the one i was trying to think of - Scifo (Other Football) - Yellalee, Nov 19, 14:19:48
        
        Remember that period circa '95 when Yeboah couldn't stop scoring blinding goals? (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:21:49
        
        (not forgetting Roberto Carlos and Cafu). (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:19:33
        
        Milla was 38 at Italia 90, I think. Oh, and Ceulemans was 35 or 36, IIRC? (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:18:29
        
        Milla was really about ninety though! (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Nov 19, 14:20:38
        
        38, but that is 266 in dog years (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:23:29
        
        Scored for a hopeless Cameroon four years later in the USA too (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:22:13
        
        Matthaus made a prat of himself too. Don't forget him! (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:15:51
        
        Mainly because somebody told him he could play as sweeper at that age. (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:18:02
        
        I thought it was more that he demanded to carry on playing for Germany no matter what (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:20:46
        
        It's OK, Gunny still managed to smack him "accidentally" (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:24:09
        
        Yeah, I remember reading that. Top stuff Gunny! (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:32:26
        
        Reading ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:36:44
        
        Gunn's autobiography, I think? (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:41:06
        
        Oh. Well you can watch it too. Home leg. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:43:04
        
        The Beeb's "Norwich City in Europe" opening titles. I really miss that: it was top! (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 14:48:44

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