Fat Frank and Gerrard were together in that game.

and so was Scholes, and I think Joe Cole is better on the left than he was anyway.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on November 19th 2007 at 13:30:20

Message Thread

Who thinks IN-ger-land won't win on Weds and may not even get a draw?.. (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Nov 19, 13:12:12
- England play for what they need, they always do. So they'll play for a draw (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 13:20:04
  - Tell you what: we're brilliant at playing for draws in major tournaments (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 13:27:27
  - How DO you "play for a draw" exactly ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:20:58
    - blub (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 13:29:37
      - How IS that a "blub" exactly ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:31:11
        
        because you're just picking at anything I'm saying now (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 13:32:03
        
        I don't care who started it (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 13:34:58
        
        that's nice to hear (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:36:26
        
        Good (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 13:44:45
        
        ah, ok (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:34:54
    - Aim not to lose - if the opo get a goal, make sure (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 13:25:35
      - I don't believe it is possible. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:26:27
        
        it isn't very often but that is what "playing for a draw" is (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 13:27:20
        
        and probably what most knew I meant (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 13:42:58
        
        yep - England have done it 3 times I think Italia 90 (got a draw in Sweden) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 19, 13:57:21
        
        *4 times (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 19, 14:02:52
        
        I think playing for a draw is when you play for a win and fuck it up (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:29:17
        
        Ok (n/m) (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 13:31:10
    - See Charlton 2 - 0 Norwich (Other Football) - Basil Wrathbone, Nov 19, 13:25:21
- 8/1 with most bookies for that to happen (n/m) (Other Football) - ingi, Nov 19, 13:14:25
- *hands up* (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:13:41
  - I don't (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 13:15:12
    - Very true (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 13:19:02
      - They would have to be silly to approach it any other way than playing the counter (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:20:20
        
        If they're up for it, Wembley should suit them perfectly (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 13:24:58
        
        Well, if Owen and Rooney had been playing, wouldn't it have been (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:27:05
        
        Nope (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 13:29:15
        
        But they're not. So the one in 2004 was a better side. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 13:28:52
        
        Fat Frank and Gerrard were together in that game. (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:30:20
        
        and they will be in this one, presumably. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 13:31:07
        
        Hopefully not. Hargreaves is in the squad now. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:33:13
    - Best advice I've had all hour (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 13:17:26
- Me (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Nov 19, 13:13:39

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