FAO blindasabat
Good read in G2 today
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"This is the caricatured rugby public of Twickenham and the Harlequins rugby club, of the annual Varsity match and the sort of rugger-bugger social antics that define a certain kind of endlessly braying, terminally boorish Englishness. Such things still exist, in pockets. But if this World Cup can achieve anything beyond the handing out of medals to the winners, it will be to take a wrecking ball to a stereotype of the game's ambiance that may once have contained a certain truth but is now, as a working definition, utterly obsolete.
Born at the public school from which it took its name, rugby is still a game of class distinctions - but not always along straightforward lines. In Wales, although essentially classless, it was embraced by coal miners and steel workers and helped to create their communal identities; in Scotland it belongs to the good schools and the professions. In England, however, rugby means different things to different people. No doubt the Harlequins, whose ground is across the road from Twickenham, still draw a significant proportion of their support from a constituency of Barboured and hip-flask-toting lawyers, accountants and estate agents. But in Gloucester, where the current England captain Phil Vickery made his name, and in the rest of the west country, the packed crowds demonstrate a raw ferocity closer to that found in soccer stadiums in the days before gentrification. In those territories, as well as a few others around the country, it is the people's sport."
Posted By: Old Git on October 16th 2007 at 12:39:54
Message Thread
- FAO blindasabat (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 12:39:54
- so your liking of Rugby because it isn't like 'soccer' (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:19:04
- Paul Sackey played yoof football for some London team (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 13:51:50
- i know QPR are shit, but they still beat us... (n/m) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 14:07:57
- If one Rory Underwood, or Jonny Wilkinson is lost to (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 16, 13:20:56
- Paul Sackey played yoof football for some London team (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 13:51:50
- Interesting...but I don't buy the line that the England rugby team is (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 12:48:23
- The same goes for Scottish Rugby (General Chat) - Costa Del Colney, Oct 16, 12:55:47
- There are plenty of Rangers fans who where England football shirts too. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 16, 13:03:57
- *Where*? FFS. (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 16, 13:08:23
- There, (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:11:59
- Wait for it (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 16, 13:16:31
- There, (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:11:59
- Except me - I hate being forced to be feckin British, I'm English. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:07:36
- who swears in 'Oirish' (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 16, 13:20:53
- Huzzah. However, I do that becuse it somehow (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:27:44
- or England (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 16, 13:30:07
- or Britain (even Brom knew that...) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:34:22
- Some of it is in the UK though innit. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 16, 13:41:01
- no (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:46:51
- Erm. No. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 16, 13:51:22
- no? (n/m) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 14:00:25
- and 21st Century dinosaurs (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:49:45
- Erm. No. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 16, 13:51:22
- no (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:46:51
- Some of it is in the UK though innit. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 16, 13:41:01
- or Britain (even Brom knew that...) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:34:22
- or England (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 16, 13:30:07
- Huzzah. However, I do that becuse it somehow (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:27:44
- who swears in 'Oirish' (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 16, 13:20:53
- *Where*? FFS. (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 16, 13:08:23
- I'd prefer to call it sad. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 12:57:46
- There are plenty of Rangers fans who where England football shirts too. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 16, 13:03:57
- probably because they're bored of all the ignorant class hatred that gets thrown at them (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 12:49:31
- I guess they get as bored with that as football supporters (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 12:52:01
- You're mixing players with supporters there... (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 12:55:05
- I don't think that's quite right (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 13:03:01
- I'd be surprised if NZ weren't the most culturally diverse (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 16, 13:07:32
- Did you see this? (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:06:44
- Yup, really interesting (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 13:14:39
- Plus Habana is from Zimbabwe (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Oct 16, 13:37:07
- Nope, apparerntly he's a pukka Sith Efrican (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 13:55:47
- Zat right? (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 13:53:07
- Was doing that myself (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Oct 16, 13:57:15
- And was educated in Joburg! (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 14:01:22
- My mate lives about 2 miles from me here in Cairo. (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Oct 16, 14:04:04
- And was educated in Joburg! (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 14:01:22
- Was doing that myself (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Oct 16, 13:57:15
- True about the schools. However, I think they have a much (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:22:00
- it's a funny that i ended up going to a school (in Cambridgeshire) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:26:57
- Which one was that? They did play rugby at (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:30:38
- Hinchingbrooke (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:48:51
- New tennis courts and a gun to shoot the rabbits. (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 13:49:57
- i remember my head of house getting the kids to stone a rabbit to death once (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:51:16
- New tennis courts and a gun to shoot the rabbits. (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 13:49:57
- Does your son play for the Ely Tigers? ( I think that's what they're called?) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 13:41:39
- Yes. He was captain two seasons ago - (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:43:14
- Nice one, my mate is a bit shit and has ropey legs.... (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 13:45:35
- I was a bit shit too, but (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:47:26
- I quite enjoyed the chucking yourself about in the mud bit... (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 13:50:59
- i played it, i was shit at it, i did not enjoy it (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:50:21
- Yep, me too. In fact I was shit at all the sports I did, (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:57:38
- I was a bit shit too, but (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:47:26
- Nice one, my mate is a bit shit and has ropey legs.... (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 13:45:35
- Yes. He was captain two seasons ago - (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:43:14
- Hinchingbrooke (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:48:51
- Which one was that? They did play rugby at (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 13:30:38
- it's a funny that i ended up going to a school (in Cambridgeshire) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:26:57
- Plus Habana is from Zimbabwe (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Oct 16, 13:37:07
- Yup, really interesting (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 13:14:39
- Well, having never met any of them, I don't feel (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 12:57:15
- I don't think that's quite right (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 16, 13:03:01
- You're mixing players with supporters there... (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 16, 12:55:05
- I guess they get as bored with that as football supporters (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 12:52:01
- The same goes for Scottish Rugby (General Chat) - Costa Del Colney, Oct 16, 12:55:47
- Yep good article. Trouble is OG, you can't tell folk (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 16, 12:46:45
- so your liking of Rugby because it isn't like 'soccer' (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 16, 13:19:04
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