Strikes me that we're at cross purposes here
Your definition of "being in a state off the field" equals administration, or a panic sale of players, eg. us with Newsome and Ward eleven years ago. Mine doesn't: in my opinion, a club which makes a £2.6m profit on transfers, is only paying an average wage bill for this division, yet still issues stark warnings of a "very challenging future" plainly IS in a mess: mainly because we've no choice but to put huge amounts of money towards paying off interest and debts rather than the team.
Glenn Roeder, of course, only became Newcastle boss because the club couldn't afford anyone better qualified: sound familiar? And their new Chairman is on record as saying they were in such a frightening state that had Shepherd not sold, they'd have gone bankrupt in the summer - do you honestly think it's possible for a team to succeed amid that kind of backdrop?
Incidentally, if you want to see how growing financial difficulties and the possibility of a takeover affects a team on the park, I'd hugely recommend Frank Clark's autobiography. It's one of the best footballing bios I've ever read - precisely because it's so sober, detailed and analytical, and completely shuns all the usual cliche-ridden dross. Clark was held accountable for Forest's slump in fortunes in 96/7, and Man City's appalling state a year or so later - yet on both occasions, a great big mess in the boardroom (which was totally out of his hands) played a VERY big part in what happened.
Posted By: thebigfeller on October 6th 2007 at 12:35:54
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- FAO blindasabat (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 11:29:54
- i'm sorry, but nothing you've posted there suggests we are in a state off the playingfield (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 6, 12:20:18
- The Norwich City Supporters Trust is waiting to buy some of them (n/m) (NCFC) - thirdager, Oct 6, 13:52:42
- Strikes me that we're at cross purposes here (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:35:54
- not really, i think you seem to have the jist of my point now (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 6, 12:53:57
- I'd like to see what effect relegation has on your "we can't go bust" thesis, mate! (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:58:02
- not really, i think you seem to have the jist of my point now (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 6, 12:53:57
- Jesus, you really have verbal diarrhoea (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Oct 6, 11:48:11
- Don't have to read it if you don't want to (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:06:02
- "the club is in its worst position in living memory" (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 6, 12:24:03
- or you've got a memory like mine Blinders (NCFC) - Tomblander, Oct 6, 13:12:35
- Ok, we're in our worst position since 1996 - and the team may be the worst since 1960 (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:25:17
- think it was appreciated by most. thanks (n/m) (NCFC) - Dirty Delia, Oct 6, 12:08:08
- "the club is in its worst position in living memory" (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 6, 12:24:03
- Don't have to read it if you don't want to (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:06:02
- I think you're right re Delia wanting out (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 11:33:51
- She's filming a tv series (NCFC) - hod80, Oct 6, 12:40:02
- And she wants to sell her shares (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 12:40:50
- Not arguing with you, but do we know for this certain. (NCFC) - Arganth, Oct 6, 12:44:32
- It's how I interpreted her and MWJ buying up the remaining shares (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 13:00:48
- Took shares instead of the cash that was owed them? Club hasnt got any spare cash? (n/m) (NCFC) - thirdager, Oct 6, 13:55:04
- Might be bollocks, but from a good source (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 12:46:33
- Maybe she was just sounding off... (NCFC) - Clare, Oct 6, 12:52:10
- That's fine. (NCFC) - Arganth, Oct 6, 12:49:36
- Well, it's still a rumour (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 12:51:54
- It's how I interpreted her and MWJ buying up the remaining shares (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 13:00:48
- Not arguing with you, but do we know for this certain. (NCFC) - Arganth, Oct 6, 12:44:32
- And she wants to sell her shares (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 12:40:50
- If you were a director in a club doing this badly... (NCFC) - Clare, Oct 6, 11:40:49
- A book as well isn't it? (n/m) (NCFC) - thirdager, Oct 6, 13:56:39
- I believe she wants out (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 11:42:29
- Maybe. (NCFC) - Clare, Oct 6, 12:21:25
- She can resign from the board, but still be majority shareholder. (NCFC) - Arganth, Oct 6, 12:24:52
- Don't know (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 12:23:11
- I think now is the time for her to go (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 6, 11:56:46
- Wasn't it Watling (the greatest figure in our history, IMO) who saved us from meltdown? (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:04:14
- If we end up in League One her time here would (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 11:57:51
- Absolutely agree (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:07:19
- Ending up in League One would be an apt conclusion for our board (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 6, 12:02:28
- League One ! I ca't see it getting that bad. Mid to mid-lower finish imo but not league 1 (n/m) (NCFC) - Dirty Delia, Oct 6, 12:07:09
- Of course it could get that bad! (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:09:20
- I never thought I'd see the club in this position (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 6, 12:11:18
- Me either (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:15:48
- We are too good to go down (NCFC) - Tomblander, Oct 6, 12:11:18
- On paper we probably are (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 6, 12:12:20
- The only three players that would get into a top Championship side (NCFC) - HoofinHughes, Oct 6, 12:25:22
- Dunno (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:21:31
- On paper we probably are (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 6, 12:12:20
- I never thought I'd see the club in this position (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 6, 12:11:18
- Considering how things are at the moment, a mid to mid-lower finish would be excellent (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 6, 12:08:21
- 100 yard walk for me then to Orient away ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Dirty Delia, Oct 6, 12:09:31
- Of course it could get that bad! (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:09:20
- League One ! I ca't see it getting that bad. Mid to mid-lower finish imo but not league 1 (n/m) (NCFC) - Dirty Delia, Oct 6, 12:07:09
- I agree. With all the shit she's been taking, I don't blame her. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Oct 6, 11:48:40
- That would be a natural reaction (NCFC) - Tomblander, Oct 6, 12:00:16
- Maybe. (NCFC) - Clare, Oct 6, 12:21:25
- Yup. I suspect we'll be under new ownership by this time next year, TBH (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 11:38:25
- I truly hope so, that drunken rant convinced me we were never going anywhere (NCFC) - Tomblander, Oct 6, 11:53:25
- Harsh, Tombs (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:11:43
- Fair point it was a bit harsh (NCFC) - Tomblander, Oct 6, 13:07:22
- The 'eh what' response... (NCFC) - Clare, Oct 6, 12:24:27
- Have to say, I found it pretty embarrassing... (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 6, 12:12:34
- Harsh, Tombs (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 6, 12:11:43
- I truly hope so, that drunken rant convinced me we were never going anywhere (NCFC) - Tomblander, Oct 6, 11:53:25
- She's filming a tv series (NCFC) - hod80, Oct 6, 12:40:02
- i'm sorry, but nothing you've posted there suggests we are in a state off the playingfield (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 6, 12:20:18
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