My grandfather had MS. He was fairly lucky in that he survived 45

years after diagnosis, and died at the age of 79. Ultimately it was MS which "got him" though, and he did spend his last 20 years or so in a wheelchair but he was fairly lucky in that it progressed fairly slowly apart from the last couple of yeasr. Most MS patients see periods of rapid decline and then slight remission, and game over can come quite quickly.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on September 4th 2007 at 14:03:43

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Oh dear, oh dear oh dear (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 4, 13:23:49
- NPPCMBC (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 13:52:47
- I'm sure his heart-breaking shopping struggle will strike a chord with the world's poor. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Sep 4, 13:43:20
  - i don't think i've got a local butcher's (n/m) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 4, 13:57:42
    - He's been out-sourced to Mumbai (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 13:59:38
      - Where did you go Old Git? (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Sep 4, 14:04:41
        
        Kenya then Scotland (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 14:05:43
        
        Ah, so you did the civilised bit first :-) (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 4, 14:12:46
        
        good stuff - wasn't on here much the day you went away... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Sep 4, 14:08:23
        
        I think I posted something about going away (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 14:10:57
      - Ah but they invented something to disguise the taste of (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 4, 14:02:12
- Don't tell me, he's about to write a book about his experience, Danny Wallace stylee. (General Chat) - tudders, Sep 4, 13:31:46
  - Precisely (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 4, 13:35:35
  - did Danny Wallace start out as just Dave Gorman's mate (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 4, 13:35:14
    - wrong (General Chat) - Brandonio, Sep 4, 13:45:14
      - oh, ok (n/m) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 4, 13:56:26
      - I thought he played for Manchester United and Southampton (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 13:47:05
        
        Won't do that any more (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Sep 4, 13:48:13
        
        has he really ? I mean the footballer Danny Wallace ? (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 13:51:39
        
        Yeah..... (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Sep 4, 13:54:13
        
        My grandfather had MS. He was fairly lucky in that he survived 45 (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 14:03:43
        
        "periods of rapid decline and then slight remission, and game over can come quite quickly" (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 14:06:49
        
        Actually, yes. Perhaps that's why he remained a season ticket holder all his life. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 14:08:26
        
        fucks with your brain too (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Sep 4, 14:11:15
        
        Well, yes, normally towards the end. (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 14:22:15
        
        My Mother in Law has it (General Chat) - Dave in France, Sep 4, 14:31:10
        
        Oh, that never happened to my grandfather. About a year before his death he (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 14:34:48
        
        Mate of mine's father die 1 year after being diagnosed, he was 47. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Sep 4, 14:05:03
        
        Yup. Cookie crumbles and all that. Same with a neighbour when I last lived in Norwich (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 14:07:30
        
        Ripper (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 14:08:04
        
        That wunt me. You can't MS someone. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 14:09:19
        
        Ah, but you didn't say that the 20 year old neighbour was MS (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 14:11:52
        
        ... (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 4, 13:50:08
    - Sort of. I must admit to rather enjoying Join Me though. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Sep 4, 13:37:12
  - Yes, he has! Surprise surprise (n/m) (General Chat) - bongo33, Sep 4, 13:33:41
    - There you go. I hate him even more. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Sep 4, 13:35:25
      - For taking a gamble and doing something different? (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Sep 4, 13:39:49
        
        No, for telling everyone how different he is, (General Chat) - tudders, Sep 4, 13:42:15
        
        and for simply choosing just as attention seeking clothes, just in the opposite (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 13:45:13
        
        That's the point though, no one in manchester was walking around like a monkey (General Chat) - pants, Sep 4, 13:47:29
        
        Do people walk round like a monkey in Manchester? (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 4, 13:48:47
        
        No but it's fashionable to walk around like Liam and Noel Gallagher (General Chat) - pants, Sep 4, 13:53:19
        
        Still ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 14:04:27
        
        They've evolved though, they do flickyhandthing these days as well (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Sep 4, 14:06:21
        
        They haven't evolved very much (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 14:07:49
        
        At the risk of showing my age (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 13:57:49
        
        haha (General Chat) - pants, Sep 4, 14:02:16
        
        Good heavens (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 4, 14:04:46
        
        Northern people in London walk around like Richard Ashcroft in BSS vid as well! (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Sep 4, 13:54:43
        
        yeah, probably why some divs where orange shirts with blue waistcoats (General Chat) - pants, Sep 4, 13:58:45
        
        Only if they're brest feeding librarians. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Sep 4, 13:50:06
        
        ha ha. Wooooosh. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 13:40:22
- Thought that was quite an interesting article actually (General Chat) - bongo33, Sep 4, 13:29:38
  - The description of him as he used to be was just (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 4, 13:31:10
    - Either way he's exaggerating it (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 13:37:24
      - Of course he is, he's trying to make money (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Sep 4, 13:54:31
    - haha I was thinking the same (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Sep 4, 13:35:01
    - Yes, quite an extreme case of consumerism (General Chat) - bongo33, Sep 4, 13:34:49
      - Exactly (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 13:38:29
        
        Jim used to (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Sep 4, 13:55:02
        
        .... (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 4, 13:39:53
        
        Scousers. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Sep 4, 13:39:22
        
        Only if they can nick it (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 4, 13:40:03

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