Semi agree

Last season was our worst in terms of goals conceded since 56/7 - generally supposed to be our worst season ever. So I would have thought that no-one was guaranteed a place - yet every centre back pairing we tried was Fleming & someone. I don't think Flem was as bad as some have claimed - but he certainly wasn't so good that dropping him was inconceivable. On paper for instance - MacKay and Charlton looks like a better fit than Fleming and Charlton. Or what about Helveg and Shackell? Youth and experience. Left and right foot. Guile and pace. Or Doherty and Charlton. All of them seem worth a try. So yes, perhaps Shackell could have come in sooner - but certainly something different should have been tried. And you're right about needing at least one big centre back - so I would always start with either Doherty or Shackell)

Posted By: Winged Eel Creosote on July 4th 2005 at 10:22:22

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Just bought the MATCH magazine on June 21-27 (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 4, 09:22:48
- mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 4, 09:57:28
- STILL going on about Gary fucking Holt... (NCFC) - Worf55, Jul 4, 09:40:56
  - Re: The Season is OVER (NCFC) - roywallerslovechild, Jul 4, 09:50:39
    - I cannot catch up with what you said... (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 4, 10:11:36
      - mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 4, 10:13:14
    - Morning, old bean. (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Jul 4, 09:54:13
      - Indeed. See also post a few inches down the board. (NCFC) - roywallerslovechild, Jul 4, 10:00:18
        
        No..... (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Jul 4, 10:02:15
        
        A change is as good as a cliche, as they say. (NCFC) - roywallerslovechild, Jul 4, 10:08:11
        
        Ouch...... (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Jul 4, 10:11:26
  - My topic is talking about why we did not use Shacks earlier (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 4, 09:43:48
    - Semi agree (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 4, 10:22:22
    - mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 4, 09:57:57
    - You still have to get Holt in there, that's my point! ;) (NCFC) - Worf55, Jul 4, 09:48:52
      - I expected someone will issue an attack of my point so (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 4, 09:50:01
        
        Also, Shacks is a young'un... (NCFC) - Worf55, Jul 4, 09:58:17
        
        But when Shacks made his Premiership debut against MC (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 4, 10:06:56
        
        Malky Malky Malky... (NCFC) - Worf55, Jul 4, 10:27:15
        
        mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 4, 09:57:19
- yawn (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 4, 09:37:02
  - Been thinking for some time that the 15 minutes.. (NCFC) - camcan, Jul 4, 09:40:00
    - thinking for 15 minutes? (n/m) (NCFC) - Gus Poyet 26, Jul 4, 09:44:44
      - no- that's way beyond my attention span. (n/m) (NCFC) - camcan, Jul 4, 09:49:59
  - tired steve? (n/m) (NCFC) - Gus Poyet 26, Jul 4, 09:39:58
    - If he's anything like me (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 4, 10:02:22

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