there's lots we could say about this

but here's probably not the place. But just to nail a couple of Daily Mail myths - did you know that the numbers of immigrants, and asylum seekers, have been falling for several years? That the asylum seeker numbers are at historically very low levels? That we now have very strict immigration policies that mean that essentially non-Europeans can't come here unless they have a skill we're short of? And that European immigrants are overwhelmingly young workers who contribute far more than they take from our public services?

So the line that 'our services can't cope' doesn't have much basis in reality. But then nor does much of the right-wing reporting on this subject.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on June 30th 2005 at 10:58:34

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Big Brother... (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 30, 00:05:15
- I've never heard such despicable racist insults before!! (n/m) (General Chat) - cean doney, Jun 30, 11:04:21
- Bring back Leslie and Kinga! Phwooaaaarrrrr (n/m) (General Chat) - Mitch mitchelson, Jun 30, 10:54:52
- Disagree (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 30, 10:10:04
  - God post Jim and mainly spot on, however I don't agree that... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 10:45:29
    - "watchable TV"? - god help us all (n/m) (General Chat) - JeanPierre Olthwaite, Jun 30, 10:59:43
      - I don't watch it, its total shite! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 11:02:47
        
        Not any more anyway! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 11:03:10
    - no it isn't and i can't believe i'm reading this (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 30, 10:48:44
      - egotisit (n/m) (General Chat) - fal5taff, Jun 30, 11:20:04
      - Super Blub (n/m) (General Chat) - cean doney, Jun 30, 11:18:44
        
        in no way, even remotely, is that a blub. merely a fact (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 30, 11:21:29
        
        That was BLUBALICIOUS, girlfriend! (n/m) (General Chat) - Whiff of Desperation, Jun 30, 13:41:33
        
        To be honest - it's a fucking blub (n/m) (General Chat) - SherryEnema, Jun 30, 13:16:53
        
        Read my responses to your shock, horror post further down (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 11:31:30
        
        Thought you were going in disgust? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 11:29:29
        
        It was blub of the century (General Chat) - cean doney, Jun 30, 11:27:26
      - Racism goes both ways in this world - get used to that fact and stop blubbing! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 10:55:24
      - No it isn't what? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 10:52:17
    - And Ch 4 edit the show to provoke a reaction (General Chat) - Yellow Jersey, Jun 30, 10:48:29
      - Of course they do - and make Joe public think it was their decision alone! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 10:53:19
      - The other housemates nomiated those two ... (General Chat) - bjt, Jun 30, 10:52:11
  - Tenous? (General Chat) - megson, Jun 30, 10:37:51
    - I watch the arguing and the aftermath on sunday (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 30, 10:41:03
      - Channel 4 is a non-mainstream TV station. (General Chat) - Arganth, Jun 30, 11:02:36
        
        agree (n/m) (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 30, 11:18:26
      - Agreed (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 30, 10:52:22
      - Missed that (General Chat) - megson, Jun 30, 10:51:33
        
        I got in from the pub, and you could see something had gone on (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 30, 10:59:26
  - great post (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 30, 10:35:06
    - that's exaclty how they have her (General Chat) - megson, Jun 30, 10:59:07
      - Vanessa spends all her time either asleep, or whispering about other people in there (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 30, 11:20:46
  - Can't help wondering if we got an insight into your views there... (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 30, 10:28:58
    - Some of the worst racists are coloured Tricky, fact! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 10:50:59
      - coloured?? oh for fuck's sake (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 30, 10:54:20
        
        You need to travel and see more of the world! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 11:05:12
        
        You've obviously never seen Indians and Pakistanis at each other Dukey.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 30, 10:58:55
    - Well maybe you did (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 30, 10:47:24
      - there's lots we could say about this (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 30, 10:58:34
        
        Agreed (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 30, 11:08:14
      - I think Maxwell is a racist (General Chat) - HarryHelveg, Jun 30, 10:55:36
    - Can't help but wondering... (General Chat) - LeonTheNinjaTurtle, Jun 30, 10:43:59
      - I always wondered what sort of reaction there would have been to this (General Chat) - Yellow Jersey, Jun 30, 10:46:56
        
        That film is offensive (General Chat) - HarryHelveg, Jun 30, 10:56:38
        
        Yeh or Guess Who... (General Chat) - LeonTheNinjaTurtle, Jun 30, 10:51:07
  - nail on the head time (General Chat) - Kings Lynn Canary, Jun 30, 10:17:48
    - and he's said offensive things for weeks, but thats funny to everyone (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 30, 10:36:56
      - I think he's simple (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellow Jersey, Jun 30, 10:50:00
- Good post, but why make... (General Chat) - Delveg, Jun 30, 09:31:20
- Undercurrent of vapidity (n/m) (General Chat) - JeanPierre Olthwaite, Jun 30, 08:55:20
- Undercurrent of racism.... (General Chat) - LowestoftBoy, Jun 30, 00:16:50
  - Hitler`s Bunker.... (General Chat) - LowestoftBoy, Jun 30, 00:39:51
  - science is a cunt tho! can u imagine living with him 24/7 (n/m) (General Chat) - walksie, Jun 30, 00:30:50
    - yeah, the amount of times someones disagreed with him (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 30, 10:39:31
    - racist (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Jun 30, 00:31:57
- Can't argue with that (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 30, 00:13:50
  - He's a (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 30, 02:01:48
- so what's your point? (General Chat) - SCC 26, Jun 30, 00:09:55
  - SCC 26: what's the point? (n/m) (General Chat) - loisaida, Jun 30, 08:04:22
  - Thought he was your favourite not long ago (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 30, 02:00:33
  - well done (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 30, 00:11:54

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