The smoking ban....

A bit OTT in my book,especiaally as the nazi's were the first to suggest such a wide spread ban.

A 70/30 or 80/20 split in the favour of non-smoking boozers would of been fairer.
Ok,fair enough people can go outside to smoke but i have a couple of concerns about which some the anti smoking brigade have yet to think about.

1.The litter created from cigs- ashtrays will be needed outside pubs.

2.Land locked pubs will lose trade and many towns will see pubs disapear-this is of huge concern. towns will become bigger dives and people will lose jobs and income.

3.It has been proven in statistic figures that there are a higher percentage of smokers from less well off social groups.Has the smoking policy been brought in especially to encourage this group to wuite as they already suffer from health inequalities?

Posted By: PK_Canary on August 23rd 2006 at 16:32:40

Message Thread

The smoking ban.... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:32:40
- There doesn't seem to be much of a problem in Dublin. (General Chat) - lurd, Aug 23, 17:13:37
  - I nearly remarked on the fact that pubs have a smell to them, as beer and smoke (General Chat) - pants, Aug 23, 17:16:48
    - smelly guiness farts (General Chat) - lurd, Aug 23, 17:22:15
  - Do a lot of people go outside pubs to smoke in Dublin? (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 17:16:06
    - They all hang around the doorways (General Chat) - lurd, Aug 23, 17:17:33
- I'll think you will find that the ban on smoking in pubs and all public places (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Aug 23, 17:01:09
- Don't smoke then (General Chat) - Ben, Aug 23, 16:49:34
  - You don't understand about addiction then...... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:50:55
    - Why should I suffer because of your addiction? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ben, Aug 23, 16:59:49
      - Good point granted,but....... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 17:00:48
        
        The best option would be a sealed smoking room with a ventilation system... (General Chat) - Ben, Aug 23, 18:53:56
        
        What!? (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 17:03:18
        
        I'm talking about life,not football. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 17:04:30
        
        Do you not go to the pub before football? (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 17:07:06
        
        Yes...... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 17:09:30
        
        Drink related in regards to overall violence?! (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 17:15:46
        
        rentboy (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 17:01:23
        
        bully! (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Aug 23, 17:03:07
    - Look, I'm sorry, OK, what I'm about to post is a trifle naughty... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Aug 23, 16:54:07
      - You don't like my views.... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:56:26
        
        That's the point... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Aug 23, 16:57:39
        
        It is original..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:58:23
        
        girl (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:59:52
        
        cunt (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:56:42
        
        Same back to you. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:57:18
        
        prick (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:57:57
    - You're going to need a reference for that as well (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Aug 23, 16:53:19
    - Addiction is a sign of weakness (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:52:01
      - Wrong,it is genetic and....... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:52:39
        
        Lucky me (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:56:11
        
        fuckwit (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:53:11
    - mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:51:48
- The Hitler argument is specious and I trust you have a reference (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Aug 23, 16:45:49
  - LOL YS THE PK CMPGN AGNST BRSSLS SPRTS ID SGN UP LOL (n/m) (General Chat) - ReptilianLizardRuler, Aug 23, 16:47:16
- mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:45:45
- well (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 23, 16:41:35
  - Landlocked..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:42:15
    - mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:46:17
    - what about just not smoking? (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 23, 16:43:36
      - If New Labour nanny state party and it's supporters like Brom.... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:44:57
        
        I'm not a f**king labour supporter! (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, Aug 23, 17:17:30
        
        Funny that...... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 17:20:24
        
        You absolute clown (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 17:24:30
        
        mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:46:31
- Shut up numb nuts (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:35:26
  - Great debate level. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:35:44
    - mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:46:49
- Plus... (General Chat) - Partial Angler, Aug 23, 16:35:24
- wat r your views on all these polish people now in the uk pk???????????????? (n/m) (General Chat) - otbc2006, Aug 23, 16:35:20
  - cunts the lot of them... (General Chat) - Sperminator, Aug 23, 16:54:38
  - I've just offered a job to one (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Aug 23, 16:42:36
    - it's normally polish people who offer you jobs, isn't it? (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 23, 16:45:11
      - why do u think pants is employing 1 (General Chat) - otbc2006, Aug 23, 16:47:52
        
        her? (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:49:10
  - he's like our very own little karl pilkington (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 23, 16:42:08
- In English please (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Aug 23, 16:34:40
  - He thinks it's a shit idea and it's and infringement on peoples civil liberties (General Chat) - pants, Aug 23, 16:40:46
    - It is not entirely a shit idea..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:41:33
      - mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:47:26
      - why are id cards a shit idea? (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 23, 16:44:11
        
        Because some of us resent being treated like muppets..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:45:55
        
        surely an identity card costs less than a passport (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 23, 16:52:41
        
        So the old people who fought for.... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:55:13
        
        pmsl (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:58:02
        
        twat (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:56:05
        
        mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:47:48
        
        Why are you a muppet if you have proof of your identity? (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:47:10
        
        So you support ID Cards..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:47:50
        
        Why do you say that? (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:49:19
        
        Because you have in the past given the impression you support them. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:49:47
        
        mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:52:25
        
        I think they are a good idea and they have a proven track record in Europe (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:51:43
        
        LOL...... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:53:33
        
        are the chips in the cards (General Chat) - blindasabat, Aug 23, 16:58:54
        
        Does that tell you what to do?Control you 24/7? (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:58:49
        
        You dont have a passport then? (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:56:39
        
        Yes i have a passport. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:57:51
        
        gimp (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:59:36
        
        fuckwit (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:55:19
        
        mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:48:41
        
        herbalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Partial Angler, Aug 23, 16:49:00
        
        I kinda have one... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Aug 23, 16:45:03
    - He is a druggy smoker (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:41:14
      - Run along..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:42:40
        
        mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:48:57
        
        Do you?.. (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Aug 23, 16:43:24
        
        lol (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:44:02
- Whereas the pubs with a coastal border will be hunky-dory. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Aug 23, 16:34:15
  - Yes. Statistic figures clearly demonstrate this. (n/m) (General Chat) - Partial Angler, Aug 23, 16:37:59
  - lol (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Aug 23, 16:37:10
  - You know waht i mean!..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:35:17
    - mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:51:06
    - "more community pubs will struggle as they don't do food etc" (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 23, 16:43:00
      - Where is that a bad point? It is fact. Look at what's happening in Scotland and Ireland. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:44:01
        
        mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:49:04
        
        They're fine... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Aug 23, 16:46:22
        
        I thought that apparently less people now smoke there as a result of the ban (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:45:32
        
        yeah, but that's terrible (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 23, 16:47:18
        
        Wrong..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:47:12
        
        mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:49:16
        
        and in Scotland? (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:47:43
        
        No figures out yet. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:48:14
        
        Not what I heard on the news today (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:49:42
        
        Did you also hear the amount of pubs that are closing.... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:51:28
        
        Why? (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 16:57:09
        
        So you think enemployment and communties losing facilities is good..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 16:59:31
        
        What you think the pubs will just stay there empty!? (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 17:03:43
        
        They will be less full. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 17:04:54
        
        Erm I meant when they close down as you suggested (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 17:07:29
        
        Oh yes they will open up as poncey wine bars or mobile phone shops...... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Aug 23, 17:12:00
        
        Still providing jobs (n/m) (General Chat) - conker, Aug 23, 17:16:01
        
        homo (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 17:01:06
        
        fuckwit (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:54:01
        
        mentalist (n/m) (General Chat) - Bryan Giggs, Aug 23, 16:49:36

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