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"The other source of threat is the sheer weight of violent incitement and hatred swirling in the air above Jewish communities right now. And this is where it gets more challenging.
For two and a half years, since the 7 October attacks, Jews in this country have experienced a growing wave of violent, hateful language that lands, one way or another, at our door. Much of this is linked to anger over Gaza and, on the surface at least, directed at Israel. You might be thinking that hating Israel is not the same as hating Jews, and in theory, you are right. In practice, it often does not divide that neatly. When incitement against “Zionists” reaches a certain point, attacks on Jews follow.
Anyway, anger on its own cannot explain this. Plenty of people are angry about what Russia has done in Ukraine, but Russian Orthodox churches do not need round-the-clock guarding. Marches in support of Ukraine are not marked by people chanting for violent resistance to Russia to be globalised. But when it comes to Israel, incitement seems to be present on every protest, even if it is not in the mind of every protester, and it rarely seems to be challenged either by protest organisers or by fellow marchers.
This kind of language is also being normalised in cultural spaces. Last summer Bob Vylan became famous for chanting “Death to the IDF”. At a gig in Amsterdam last year, they went further, shouting “Fuck the Zionists! Get out there and fight them! Get out there and meet them in the street.” At a gig in Spain, they said “We do support the right to an armed resistance. ’Cause we ain’t no f**king pacifists. We ain’t the nonviolent type.” In the US the band had their US visas revoked and their tour dates cancelled, but on this side of the Atlantic they were invited on to Louis Theroux’s podcast, and invited to the Irish parliament. They are due to headline two festivals in the UK this summer. (Bob Vylan have said they are “not for the death of Jews, Arabs, or any other race”, but “for the dismantling of a violent military machine”, and that their speech does not constitute hatred towards Jewish people.)
The government has an important role to play in this. Kanye West was prevented from performing at Wireless festival because the government denied him a visa. Venues that host antisemitic artists should lose Arts Council funding. A whole-society approach to tackling antisemitism means exactly this: pulling every lever available to set a standard that violent incitement and antisemitic extremism are no longer tolerated. It’s a low bar, but that’s where we are.
Extremist violence does not emerge from a vacuum. It is produced by ideas and language that demonises a target group and then – intentionally or not – ends up justifying and excusing violence against them. And it flourishes when people do nothing against it"
Posted By: paulg on May 1st 2026 at 14:01:18
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- That's the pattern with half the criticism of Starmer. All the tax hikes were also (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, May 1, 12:51:27
- Why did he choose to attack Jews specifically? (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, May 1, 09:41:34
- We don't yet know if he did. Government and police suggesting terrorism, but his charges (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, May 1, 12:49:20
- from today's graun (General Chat) - paulg, May 1, 14:01:18
- Bloody hell (General Chat) - norwaay, May 1, 16:32:59
- from today's graun (General Chat) - paulg, May 1, 14:01:18
- It was reported he attacked someone who wasn’t (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 1, 09:49:06
- Give him a call (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, May 1, 09:45:36
- Yeah probably been released already (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 1, 09:49:39
- hopefully he'll stick around to give evidence against those nasty policemen (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, May 1, 10:11:25
- Good to see them being defended by the chief (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 1, 10:25:47
- Agree - hold the line (General Chat) - norwaay, May 1, 11:45:12
- Yes, very good (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, May 1, 10:34:13
- Good to see them being defended by the chief (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 1, 10:25:47
- hopefully he'll stick around to give evidence against those nasty policemen (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, May 1, 10:11:25
- Yeah probably been released already (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 1, 09:49:39
- We don't yet know if he did. Government and police suggesting terrorism, but his charges (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, May 1, 12:49:20
- Why was he not deported in 2008 (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, May 1, 09:02:07
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- When was he given uk citizenship? (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, May 1, 09:21:53
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