The ref saw the initial incident

If you are saying that it’s ok for 4th officials to effectively overrule on subjective on field decisions they were nowhere near without even looking at replays then I just fundamentally disagree with that. It’s worse than VAR.

I’d say the sand for linesman to be fair as well. The ref should have been stronger if it was the linesman that chipped in.

Posted By: Jim on April 11th 2026 at 21:30:06

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Watching the replays not only is that clearly not a pen but also both the ref and linesman (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 11, 20:56:59
- The lino has already told him before running (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:10:57
  - Bottom line, no one, including Sky knows what happened until the officials tell us. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 11, 21:21:50
  - Also the lino immediately stands still (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:19:38
  - How do you know that and even so the ref saw the incident and played on he (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 11, 21:17:11
    - It’s the only thing which makes sense (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:23:07
      - I'm enjoying your sudden belief in the infallibility of Sky. For me a more likely scenario (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 11, 21:26:22
        
        They’ve been told what happened (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:36:28
        
        Told by whom? (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 11, 21:50:34
        
        Maybe you could ask them (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:54:30
        
        You're the one using them as your source. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 11, 21:56:12
  - Under the 'IFAB Practical Guidelines for Match Officials' it clearly states that the beep (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 11, 21:16:23
    - They also suggest audio can be used instead (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:21:23
  - In that scenario woukd have seen it wasn’t a pen as well (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 11, 21:12:23
- I think 4th officials have been doing this for a couple of seasons (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 11, 20:59:49
  - You think they’re going to the monitor? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:13:10
    - No I think they are telling them they are wrong over the radio (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 11, 21:18:05
      - Isn’t that the way they have to tell them about something they’ve seen? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:26:52
        
        The ref saw the initial incident (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 11, 21:30:06
        
        The scunmer’s back was blocking his view (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:44:47
        
        Same not sand (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 11, 21:30:29
        
        From the footage it looks like he’s standing on the touch line (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 11, 21:28:47
  - Pity they don’t tell the ref’s to give second yellows isn’t it (n/m) (NCFC) - Gazzaman, Apr 11, 21:00:48

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