Partially (as I've been in 25 years) - but even that's not great
They made a horlicks of moving everyone over, so I'll get about half and half old scheme (up to 2015) and new.
But no, we all got shifted across to the new scheme in the mid teenies.
(didn't go into it as its horribly messy)
I can, in theory, take the old scheme stuff at 60 - but would need them to agree to partial retirement (unlikely to be available at that point). Otherwise I keep working, building up provision in the new scheme and losing out in the old (which is tied to final salary, but accrues slower and so is likely only worth 10-15k and degrades for each year after 60 I don't take it).
Anyone who has joined after 2015 is on the new scheme. Anyone prior essentially has a low value final salary scheme, hamped by the earlier point about public sector salaries being nobbled for at least 25 years.
As an illustration (I'm reasonably senior) my first big boss/team leader, in the equivalent role to what I do now was sitting pretty earning a very decent salary.
Over 25 years later the job only pays around 15% more than she was earning. Quick googling suggests over a similar period average wage inflation in the UK was 3.34 per annum.
I love my work and my career, but the idea that I'm in it for the money, or the pension, is laughable.
Against that context, the pension value is massively eroded. In real terms the average civil servant (last time it was reported) was getting a pension of around £6k per year...
Posted By: Cardiff Canary on November 4th 2025 at 11:18:16
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- Rachel from accounts has been up early today (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 4, 08:49:14
- She’s being a realist. Decades of stealing from the majority to fund the wealthy (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Nov 4, 13:11:26
- Rachel from accounts ......nevermind the fact that. (General Chat) - CROYDONCANARY, Nov 4, 11:46:11
- you'd think she'd have done better with the economy would'nt you, instead (General Chat) - trueyellow, Nov 4, 12:10:10
- There's no such thing as a 'black hole'.... (General Chat) - CROYDONCANARY, Nov 4, 12:35:05
- you'd think she'd have done better with the economy would'nt you, instead (General Chat) - trueyellow, Nov 4, 12:10:10
- If she raises income tax it will be the correct decision (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Nov 4, 09:15:26
- Bloated Public Sector (General Chat) - Fenwood Lad, Nov 4, 09:38:15
- Keep your hands off my gold-plated pension. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Nov 4, 12:16:54
- You do know that public sector pensions are contributory. (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 4, 11:35:57
- The pension scheme has already been revised. (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Nov 4, 10:56:48
- Oh sorry, I'd not refreshed to see your reply! (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 4, 11:36:49
- That's alright (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Nov 4, 13:15:22
- If you joined the scheme years ago (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 4, 10:59:57
- Only for the period it was open. (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Nov 4, 12:18:27
- Partially (as I've been in 25 years) - but even that's not great (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Nov 4, 11:18:16
- I wasn't when my employer ditched final salary about 6 years ago (General Chat) - Azteca, Nov 4, 11:13:35
- So a portion will be based on final salary? (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 4, 11:17:26
- For me yes - best of both worlds - I'm lucky (General Chat) - Azteca, Nov 4, 11:55:18
- The forward bit is career average (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Nov 4, 11:21:36
- So a portion will be based on final salary? (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 4, 11:17:26
- 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - JD3, Nov 4, 10:59:00
- Oh sorry, I'd not refreshed to see your reply! (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 4, 11:36:49
- It’s going to happen at some point (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Nov 4, 09:41:48
- The public sector is not bloated. It is cut to the bone. (n/m) (General Chat) - colincanary, Nov 4, 09:30:31
- Been that way for ages - cut to the bone (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Nov 4, 18:21:57
- You are deluded if you think that (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Nov 4, 09:37:34
- You've clearly swallowed the Nigel Farage play book (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Nov 4, 09:27:45
- 👏🏼 (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Nov 4, 18:21:31
- and you have? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Nov 4, 09:40:56
- The telegraph and city am!! Wow what sources (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Nov 4, 09:45:09
- Generally fairly balanced. (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Nov 4, 09:49:27
- The telegraph and city am!! Wow what sources (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Nov 4, 09:45:09
- I'm interested to know how she plans to reduce the cost of living (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 4, 09:22:14
- Bloated Public Sector (General Chat) - Fenwood Lad, Nov 4, 09:38:15
- its a clownshow (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 4, 09:14:32
- 100%. A major factor for our current economic doldrums is BREXIT and the main proponent (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 09:29:06
- Thickos love him. Insanity (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Nov 4, 18:21:07
- Absolutely this. The millionaire grifter fucked the economy, didn't stop the boats (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 4, 11:30:11
- Post of the century! (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Nov 4, 18:20:45
- Correct✔️🥇 (n/m) (General Chat) - Canarrojo, Nov 4, 10:15:44
- 100%. A major factor for our current economic doldrums is BREXIT and the main proponent (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 09:29:06
- "we'll all have to contribute" (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 4, 09:11:03
- The wealthiest can (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Nov 4, 18:20:10
- Thievesy at it again (n/m) (General Chat) - Bristol Yellow, Nov 4, 09:04:19
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