One of a series of spectacular own goals by Labour. And yes, I voted for them.
I agree that this or something like it is what the policy should have been in the first place.
I still don't know what this government is for, honestly. I know what they're against, sometimes, and who they're not, but not who they are. Who can remember the Five Missions (was it six? I forget)?
The worst own goal remains the pledge not to touch general taxation. They compounded it by not using the obviously changed world to run a narrative around difference circumstances requiring different approaches (and therefore we'll raise taxes, or broaden their scope, even though we said we wouldn't). That would have been sellable a) anyway and b) while Badenoch remains, because she's so utterly useless. They've squandered the "free hit" they had in their first year and their big policies contradict each other. Are we still going for growth? A lot of policies row against that. Net Zero? Similar. And so on.
It's always easy to point out what's going wrong under any government as plenty always is. That's the nature of the beast. But Labour's issue is that it's genuinely hard to build a narrative that things are better now. They've still got four years to do that, but they need to stop trying to out-Reform Reform, which they'll never manage, and start deciding who they are and what they're for and get on with delivering something driven from that.
Posted By: Old Man on June 9th 2025 at 13:34:01
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- GTFI , i can put the heating on next winter (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 9, 12:25:21
- One of a series of spectacular own goals by Labour. And yes, I voted for them. (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 9, 13:34:01
- The problem is that I'm not sure Starmer really stands for anything (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 9, 13:49:57
- Yes that's the one area that this government has done well (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 9, 13:58:24
- yes because "israel has that right" to shut off water and food to Gaza. jesus wept (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Jun 9, 14:50:12
- Don’t know about lost (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jun 9, 14:20:23
- Yes that's the one area that this government has done well (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 9, 13:58:24
- They really are massively disappointing and deserve the criticism (General Chat) - APB, Jun 9, 13:45:03
- That shift across Europe really is alarming. Hope the extinction involves zombies (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 9, 13:59:24
- centrists have always opened the door to fascism (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Jun 9, 14:53:00
- That shift across Europe really is alarming. Hope the extinction involves zombies (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 9, 13:59:24
- Old Man for PM (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 9, 13:42:03
- The problem is that I'm not sure Starmer really stands for anything (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 9, 13:49:57
- What was stopping you putting it on before? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 9, 12:58:41
- absolutely nothing .... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 9, 13:22:46
- ^^ I read this to the tune of “war, what is it good for?” (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 9, 13:45:19
- Surprised they turned up, you can't get them interested in a bike being nicked (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 9, 13:25:56
- Heating or eating (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 12:59:34
- or springsteen (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 9, 13:01:01
- absolutely nothing .... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 9, 13:22:46
- Wow finally a sane policy of under £35K earners (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 9, 12:43:04
- They’ve listened, realised they’ve made a mistake and put it right. Well done Starmer. (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 9, 13:31:25
- One of a series of spectacular own goals by Labour. And yes, I voted for them. (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 9, 13:34:01
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