Do they have to be though?

Someone will steam in and say "but do England?"

The difference is Brazil are clearly creating chances and dominating the midfield battles and to a point, are in charge of the pace of the game and the game itself

That's where the argument of, "they do enough to win and thats it"

Englands problems are far deeper than to use that sort of excuse

Posted By: pants on June 18th 2006 at 19:30:41

Message Thread

brazil (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 17:53:01
- Stupid thing is he isn't playing that badly, just idiots that enjoy jumping on bandwagons (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 18:55:28
  - It's all about Ronaldo's very high standard set in the past though, isn't it? (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:01:52
    - I don't think we've seen the last of him (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:05:29
      - they were terrible again (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:08:05
        
        laughable, truely laughable (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:10:25
        
        The Australians were going all-out for the equaliser though ... (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:13:30
        
        Yes but Austrailia were going all out for a point up until Brazil scored (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:17:06
        
        stop blubbing mate (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:15:24
        
        Refer you to ottos post the other day about seeing a better mikey (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:18:17
        
        Haha! (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:20:15
        
        i am disagreeing with you like EVERYONE else (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:20:02
        
        So you base your main board Lord Qwerty statement on who's around at the time? (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:23:36
        
        now i know you're fishing! (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:12:37
        
        They pass accuratley and keep the ball, its a winning formula (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:16:14
        
        Pants do you think england 'dominated' t+t? (Other Football) - megson, Jun 19, 08:43:14
        
        How is 53% of possession and 18 shots to 14 "domination"? (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:19:41
        
        astounded by your stupidity actually (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:18:23
        
        I didn't agree with Pants with regards to the croatia game really and I don't here... (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 18, 23:43:30
        
        I was going to do a post saying I reckoned you wouldn't agree with me about today (Other Football) - pants, Jun 19, 01:21:43
        
        laughable again really (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:33:44
      - They don't look too clever defensively for me ... (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:07:00
        
        brazil have never been clever defensively (Other Football) - Dave in France, Jun 18, 19:21:35
        
        Yes, of course ... (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:23:03
        
        Even against NZ I thought they looked fragile at the back (Other Football) - Iwan Husarmi, Jun 18, 19:08:54
        
        Killer and Covs "hardly world-class"? (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:10:30
    - both poor (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:04:37
      - Owen will always come up with the goods against the big teams (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:06:11
        
        So the reason he's looked like a pub-league clogger (Other Football) - Iwan Husarmi, Jun 18, 19:06:59
        
        Not really, it's probably cos that shit midfield 4 haven't given him a decent chance to (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:09:52
        
        Agreed (Other Football) - megson, Jun 19, 08:44:44
        
        He's had several (Other Football) - Iwan Husarmi, Jun 18, 19:12:08
        
        but he's hardly played all year (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:06:47
        
        But he'll be fit by the second round, teams will mark Rooney (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:09:10
        
        i'm not slagging owen off (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:11:06
        
        You would if he was playing for Brazil (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:12:04
        
        clueless as ever (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:13:04
        
        Yes of course (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:26:55
  - you seem to be the only person on the planet who believes that (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:00:49
    - Nice pass to Adriano though (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:01:51
      - yup world class lol (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:03:20
        
        Yeah, he only drew two defenders, took them out of the game, passed it (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:07:43
        
        all the room in the world? (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:09:18
        
        Envy (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:11:29
        
        not one person has agreed with you (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:14:49
        
        nails it, you either clearly pissed or very bored (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:24:50
        
        Come on mate, face it ... (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:27:07
        
        Do they have to be though? (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:30:41
        
        As with Ronaldo, though, it's about Brazil not living up to expectations. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 18, 19:35:33
        
        I think that Brazil team would roll over Holland easily (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:42:31
      - Yeah, he rolled the ball across the box (Other Football) - HoofinHughes, Jun 18, 19:03:12
        
        it was a beckhamesque cross (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 19:05:52
        
        lol (n/m) (Other Football) - HoofinHughes, Jun 18, 19:07:08
        
        Very quiet about that Ghana post I noticed (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:12:47
- makes me look like inazamam-ul-haq (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 26, Jun 18, 17:54:15
  - he's finished (Other Football) - Charles21, Jun 18, 17:55:52
    - I don't think so, they hype up Robinho too highly (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 18:57:06
      - lol (Other Football) - HoofinHughes, Jun 18, 19:04:44
        
        Skyed it over the bar? (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 19:08:14

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