Got to point the finger at the academy surely?

We've had a load of managers come in, survey the youth team, and broadly decide there's almost nothing worth playing regularly. There are exceptions of course (JR), but this is true isnt it?

Also, for quite some time we've had a conveyor belt of players that have gone out on loan further down the pyramid and not done much, again with a few exceptions (Bali Mumba). But most players have sunk without trace and ended up warming the bench at Stenhousemuir. Even the ones that have done well on loan have not really gone on to do anything.

Yes, we could run an operation that just plays people who are young, but I doubt it would get us anywhere. The more salient question is why we are not getting better players into and through the academy.

Posted By: Under soil heating on February 7th 2025 at 15:33:05

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waves bye-bye to The Pathway (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 13:41:53
- Got to point the finger at the academy surely? (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Feb 7, 15:33:05
  - I think you need to be very careful (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 16:04:21
    - Although it’s fair to say some of the kids were only (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 7, 16:53:43
      - Indeed. (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 17:03:41
    - The players you mention … (NCFC) - loz, Feb 7, 16:18:15
      - The fact we are signing young Scottish players (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Feb 7, 16:25:40
        
        Good grief, I agree with you. I feel dirty (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 7, 16:29:03
      - Lewis, Idah and Aarons were signed at 16 and therefore were in the academy (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 7, 16:25:25
- It's not a given right (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Feb 7, 13:59:32
- The Pathway is 100% there for players that are good enough (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 7, 13:53:43
  - That isn't a pathway, that is just meritocracy (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 14:09:42
    - Yes, if you're good enough at each stage to continue along that pathway (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 7, 14:23:10
      - If you had defined pathway last May (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 14:31:32
        
        Which players aren't getting a chance that you think should be? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 7, 16:02:49
        
        Recruiting at 18+ isn't - for me - the pathway (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 16:21:29
        
        I'm not saying that it is the pathway (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 7, 16:28:15
        
        All managers believe that! (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 16:41:19
        
        We have to respect young players careers though … (NCFC) - loz, Feb 7, 16:50:52
        
        Lewis and Aarons came through Luton’s academy (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 7, 14:36:42
        
        Bit like Mahovo at the moment then ?!! (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Feb 7, 14:34:40
      - Presumably the 'will' is there via appropriate funding/prioritisation of youth development (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 7, 14:25:49
        
        Now that we have cash to burn (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 16:29:46
    - Should we play academy players even if they aren’t good enough? (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 7, 14:17:45
      - The whole premise was that JHT was a superior coach (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 14:25:38
        
        Probably need to give him more than six months to (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 7, 14:27:54
        
        Wasn’t the whole premise… (NCFC) - loz, Feb 7, 14:27:12
        
        Also, of the Farke crop (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 7, 14:29:32
        
        Full-time coaching only starts at 16 (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 14:43:39
    - what are you on about (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 7, 14:12:44
      - He/she hates the club post Wagner/delia … (NCFC) - loz, Feb 7, 14:14:05
        
        To Be honest ..... (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 7, 14:26:56
        
        Old club scout perhaps ? (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Feb 7, 14:30:10
        
        maybe (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 7, 14:33:55
- What about… (NCFC) - loz, Feb 7, 13:46:50
  - Hills' pathway is now blocked (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 7, 13:52:49
    - It's not blocked. He is now on loan isn't he? (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Feb 7, 13:59:55
    - You do realise that part of the pathway is progressing … (NCFC) - loz, Feb 7, 13:59:10

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