PM SimonOTBC

Re: That chart of 'Mistakes leading to shots' you posted yesterday.

It listed Birmingham as Zero. I think that's bollocks.

I've just rewatched the highlghts of our match against them, and:
1) Our equalier came directly from a FK awarded against them (so why not an Error?), and they subsequently failed to clear their six-yard box (another Error).
2) Our winner stemmed from Birm not defending a high, bouncing ball in the middle of their half. Two passes later we have scored.

And in the Blues' match @ WBA they conceded a penalty, which was converted. So how can that not be classed as a 'Mistake leading to a shot'?

Confirmed, I think that stat (& table) is bollocks.

Posted By: Henclrikus on October 28th 2022 at 10:30:01

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PM SimonOTBC (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 10:30:01
- In the history of football (NCFC) - A new PC Mr Creosote, Oct 28, 11:18:38
  - vmt - if you look hard enough there will always be something the defending (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Oct 28, 13:42:10
- Whatever the definition of an error if it was applied consistently then the it still meanw (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Oct 28, 11:15:56
  - OPTA defines it as losing the ball (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Oct 28, 13:40:31
    - so which is going to negatively affect a team more (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 13:47:45
  - if applied consistently it still means we are worse than other teamss... (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Oct 28, 11:16:36
    - If we are "worse" than Birmingham why are we above them? (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 11:31:10
      - I get it you don't like this statistic but I believe you are taking it a little too (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Oct 28, 12:14:38
        
        I wasn't the one using it as a stick to beat the club (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 12:35:03
- In the history of football (NCFC) - A new PC Mr Creosote, Oct 28, 10:54:18
- Thank you (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 28, 10:38:28
- It’s only bollocks if the error criteria is inconsistent applied (NCFC) - CWC, Oct 28, 10:37:44
  - If an error that leads to a scored pen is not counted (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 10:43:59
    - If the criteria is consistently applied then it will be missing other errors that we make (NCFC) - CWC, Oct 28, 11:06:09
      - Show me a team that does not make errors? (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 11:29:43
      - Half of Pukki's goals have come from incredible cock ups from the oppo too (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 28, 11:11:23
- Quite hard to define an 'error' isn't it? (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 28, 10:33:04
  - Boo! Hanley/Gibson/Aarons are shit (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 10:39:25
    - Well, not quite open goals (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 28, 11:04:24
      - I was more thinking of @ Sheff U (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 11:16:14
        
        Ah, yeah, was a shit pen (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 28, 11:18:23
        
        But still not an open goal as I distinctly remember a goalkeeper right in front of him (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Oct 28, 12:32:53
        
        xG rate a pen as between 0.76 & 0.79 (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 12:45:54
        
        Confused. So are you saying we should (Birmingham errors) or shouldn't (Pukki) focus on (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Oct 28, 13:42:02
        
        You're the one arguing the toss. I've made it pretty clear. (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 13:45:28
        
        You don't make anything clear, mate (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Oct 28, 13:52:48
        
        I've already said it once (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 28, 13:57:45

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