that penultimate line is the killer

Smith isn't selling us any vision.

I could totally buy that the style he is trying to build here is more effective in the Prem, with the types of players we could afford for the Prem, than what we had built under Farke. We know flipping styles on promotion isn't easy and we can't really afford the quality of player we needed for Farke to be able to shine. So I'm happy if we're building for the future.

And maybe that means that yes, we do have the wrong type of striker here atm and yes our fullbacks are a bit wasted. But long term maybe this is what we need to do so that we build the style and train the players to it then slot in upgrades as we go along / on promotion.

And maybe this will take more than this season but, y'know, this is just the journey we're on.

But we get none of that messaging or vision from Smith *or* Webber, so it's unclear if there is a grand strategy at play here or if Smith just isn't the manager we need with the squad we have.

If the players are too limited to fit the scheme the manager wants to play, and the manager is too limited to play a scheme the players can adapt to, we're in a bit of a pickle.

Posted By: CWC on August 16th 2022 at 08:36:49

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PM AvengingCanary and anyone who doesn't know what the style is (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 00:27:02
- Thank you. Greatly appreciated. (n/m) (NCFC) - AvengingCanary, Aug 16, 08:27:30
  - No worries! (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 08:39:18
- Jump to 11 mins and 20 seconds if you're really impatient (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 00:37:10
  - Cheers for the link - nice to hear a considered discussion (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 07:46:56
    - that penultimate line is the killer (NCFC) - CWC, Aug 16, 08:36:49
      - Webber sold the vision! I don't really remember Farke discussing the intricacies of his ta (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 08:55:06
        
        vision/strategy =/= tactical intricacies (NCFC) - CWC, Aug 16, 09:05:05
        
        How many times are you expecting to hear it? You want a video mission statement? (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 09:56:32
        
        I’d like a TikTok at least (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Aug 16, 10:00:57
        
        See if Todd will get him on? (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 10:04:01
        
        He seems a very nice man (NCFC) - jamesward, Aug 16, 09:14:30
      - Do you think that a few wins would change that? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Aug 16, 08:49:29
        
        better bloody do (NCFC) - CWC, Aug 16, 08:58:46
    - This is where I am. I *can* see a style developing (NCFC) - jamesward, Aug 16, 08:34:21
      - Or we need more able players? (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 08:57:45
        
        Maybe, but when you look at our players compared to most Champ (NCFC) - jamesward, Aug 16, 09:04:31
    - I started typing out a lengthy reply.... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Aug 16, 08:18:35
      - Agreed (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 08:24:37
        
        👍 (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Aug 16, 08:27:21
        
        Very very much so (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 08:30:11
    - Think it was Camcan rather than OG who astutely defined the camps (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 07:51:02
      - Ahhh Apols Camcan - credit where its due! (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 07:58:36
    - (sorry for the number of words) (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 07:47:45
  - Is the style of play... dominate possession.... and still find a way to not win.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Aug 16, 02:10:30
    - Yeah, we're trying to not win. (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 07:48:26
      - Blimey - that's a stupid tactic (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 07:50:39
        
        It's certainly a very simple fix isn't it? (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 07:52:30
        
        Nifty - now let's go on to fix the energy bill crisis! (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 07:59:23
        
        Switch to candles (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 08:00:37
        
        Boom! How about the climate crisis? (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 08:17:16
        
        Switch to candles in business. (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Aug 16, 08:58:43
        
        Ask cows to clench? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Aug 16, 08:22:52
        
        Hmmm... Think a coffee break is in order (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Aug 16, 08:27:18

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