I have been wondering why VAR is not going well

Whereas in most other sports video refereeing has generally gone pretty well. I think there are two reasons.

In many other sports, the questions are easier. Did the ball hit the line? Did the ball hit the bat? Tech can do a really great job of answering these questions. This is pretty obvious.

Many questions in football are ones of judgement. Was that reckless and dangerous? Did the defender mean to bring him down? Did the forward dive? Of course, much harder, and reasonable people can disagree.

But this doesn’t explain why TMO in rugby (say) is regarded as good, and VAR in football is regarded as crap. I think the answer is the lack of communication. In rugby you get hear the ref. You know what’s being checked and why. You know what the ref thinks, and what they are looking to confirm. If they change a decision, or confirm an action, you know why. You may not agree, but the whole process is laid out.

In football, nothing. I know Paul Tierney was watching clips of that possible pen from lots of different angles. But what was he looking for? How did he see it? What did Moss think he saw? Did Tierney think he had seen it right? How did they think the incident potentially squared up to the laws of football? If this was not a foul, why?

There is no reason why football couldn’t do this. Then, like it or not, at least it would be clear what had been considered. I think the refs in football are currently hiding. I personally don’t trust their ability to make decisions well and consistently based on the evidence. Frankly, I think many of our refs are stupid, and the authorities are worried about having this exposed. Anyone complaining about a decision is just whinging, and crap refs just get to carry on being crap. Generally there should be much more explanation from referees after the event too.

Posted By: Under soil heating on May 30th 2022 at 08:56:02

Message Thread

How the flying fuck (Other Football) - Old Git, May 30, 07:14:06
- A good test is what the opposition think…. (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, May 30, 11:06:56
  - Charles thinks both are playing for the pens (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 11:17:27
- How could anyone have foreseen (Other Football) - Black Creosote Time, May 30, 10:54:11
- VAR wasn’t used properly for the first either (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, May 30, 10:43:33
  - Yep, definitely wasn't a dive (Other Football) - jamesward, May 30, 10:47:02
- VAR at the World Cup and Euros (Other Football) - Eric Morecambe, May 30, 09:14:53
  - The Euros had 4 VARs per game (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:25:25
- In real time didn't look like a pen to me (Other Football) - JD3, May 30, 09:05:04
  - Seen that mentioned already (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:08:55
  - There was something 'unnatural' about it (n/m) (Other Football) - JD3, May 30, 09:05:27
- You can’t give what you can’t see, apparently x (n/m) (Other Football) - Nelsons final flanel, May 30, 09:04:50
- I have been wondering why VAR is not going well (Other Football) - Under soil heating, May 30, 08:56:02
  - 100%. More transparency on the decision making. You still might not agree but at least (Other Football) - The Gaffer, May 30, 09:28:59
    - Hard to put a detailed explanation on the big screen (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:32:01
      - piffle (Other Football) - CWC, May 30, 09:55:41
        
        Rugby refs seem to be much more intelligent people (Other Football) - jamesward, May 30, 10:17:31
      - LOL I wasn't suggesting a big screen explanation. But they could show the same video the. (Other Football) - The Gaffer, May 30, 09:38:25
  - threshold of decision, speed of decision, false sense of accuracy (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 09:22:37
    - Point 3 is nonsense (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:27:56
      - Look up the tech specs (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 09:33:25
        
        Rubbish (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 10:14:18
        
        It's really not (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 10:50:18
        
        A rather important point (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 11:05:06
        
        lolf - I'm sure you'll pop in again with a last word, however (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 11:11:53
        
        lol so every point made on here (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 11:35:09
        
        where player are moving in opposite directions at speed (Other Football) - jamesward, May 30, 10:18:11
        
        Yep (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 10:34:27
  - comms is certainly key (Other Football) - CWC, May 30, 09:18:33
  - There are bad calls like yesterday (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:01:51
- Apparently VAR didn't even look at it. Tis reet weird. (n/m) (Other Football) - DrDublin, May 30, 07:25:10

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