It's this that worries me

Buttler and Bairstow and Foakes all have world class talent.

It's not the players. It's the preparation.

When we draft in someone else for Buttler, they'll look scratchy and fail too, but it'll be down to poor management and poor preparation.

Look at he long term investment/reward the Aussies got from Lyon.

Ali/Rashid/leech/bess/parkinson/Livingston all have talent but need(ed) support to develop to the next level. They all deteriorate under the England setup (and improve again when they're away from it).

This is double true for the batters.

There's been some discussion about this side being as poor as the early 90s. I started watching cricket then. The difference then was that the opposition players were massively better than ours.

I really don't feel that here. We should at least be competitive. We diminish our players in how we train, manage and prepare them and that has to change.

The long form argument is bulls**t too - every other side faces the same issue. They just manage it better.

Posted By: Cardiff Canary on December 18th 2021 at 10:57:54

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Another collapse. Shock. I really would love to know what they try and do to (NCFC) - DH Yellow, Dec 18, 10:12:09
- What do they do in traynun, Neyul? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bristol Graham, Dec 18, 10:23:07
  - Exactly (n/m) (NCFC) - DH Yellow, Dec 18, 11:08:54
  - Hint noo wun at Traynun, all gort Cewvid. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Dec 18, 10:26:00
- I hope warner gets his cheekbone broken. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 18, 10:22:57
- Do we care enough about the long form? (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 18, 10:21:35
  - They don’t play enough 5 day cricket. The emphasis has been on white ball (NCFC) - DH Yellow, Dec 18, 11:12:20
    - Fewer counties probably (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 18, 13:15:11
      - Vaughan and Atherton have banged on about that for years. (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 18, 13:31:44
    - County Champ is played at the beginning and end of the season (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 18, 11:14:59
      - The domestic season schedule is an incoherent shambles (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 18, 11:17:52
        
        They don't play their 4-day cricket in cloudy 10C on greentops though (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 18, 11:20:13
        
        I don’t see that changing either unfortunately. There is less emphasis on the 5 day game (NCFC) - DH Yellow, Dec 18, 13:25:41
        
        True (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 18, 11:40:42
- Now we need an Australian collapse, it's just, well, it won't happen will it (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Dec 18, 10:18:43
  - butler looks a broken man (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Dec 18, 10:21:33
    - It's this that worries me (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 18, 10:57:54
    - Absolutely no energy out there at all. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Dec 18, 10:24:12

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