That's a really really good question.I fell in love with Norwich because we were different
Progressive, enlightened, never too demanding, a real family club. And that was at a time of hooliganism, the long ball and football being treated like a pariah sport.
I've never been someone that ambitious or ruthless, so a large part of me has always liked that we're not either. But only up to a point. The problem, as with everything in life, is when we take it too far.
In football, to be hated is to exist. So many other clubs and journalists patronise us so often because they just cannot take us seriously. The real reason they praise us is because well, they like us being a soft touch who they'll take three points off all the time. Plenty of people insisted we were a 'breath of fresh air' in 2004/5, for example. I didn't. I thought our attitude to it all stank, with Fulham the culmination of it.
It's all about extremes. No other club at this level would ever keep a manager with that appalling a record in the top division - because to do so is to admit defeat, to give up. That's not what Webber's here for at all. And why did we need to bring tougher people in in the first place? First McNally, then Webber, were desperately needed because we twice reached a point (2009, 2017) when failure would mean financial armageddon.
That's the thing about being too nice. Under our model, it can actually result in catastrophe. That's kinda why I was so infuriated throughout Adams' stint: what did we think we were doing by wasting that time when, with parachute payments, we had to get back up, or else?
If Norwich were ever taken over by Newcastle-style owners, that'd be it for me. For many thousands of others too I imagine. But between black and white, there's plenty of shades of grey. This isn't a flower show. It's professional sport. And being hard and objective doesn't mean 'selling our soul' in any way: we have to make smart, tough decisions in order to have any chance at all.
Posted By: thebigfeller on November 7th 2021 at 21:47:33
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- Can’t remember feeling this deflated since Mike walker left. Strange feeling. Personally.. (NCFC) - WalksietheReturn, Nov 7, 21:23:04
- Similar thoughts, don’t like the PL as ultimately true (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 8, 07:33:01
- Time will prove that this was a huge mistake (NCFC) - Munich93, Nov 7, 21:59:13
- I've been much more deflated on plenty of occasions (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 7, 21:31:19
- Thought you were going to list personal life events (NCFC) - IG88, Nov 8, 07:32:34
- The trick is to think about what you feel ... (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Nov 7, 22:43:46
- Oh you are one of those “with hindsight I had insight” types (NCFC) - Boyer, Nov 7, 22:11:01
- Oh no I'm bloody not. I was posting about plenty of the above at the time! (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 7, 22:12:46
- Really? Don’t get some of these points (NCFC) - WalksietheReturn, Nov 7, 21:49:09
- I think a couple of your examples above are bonkers, but it's all about opinions (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 7, 21:56:33
- I don't think we did give him a proper shot this year (NCFC) - paulg, Nov 7, 21:42:26
- Yep vmt unless we have a significant upgrade coming in (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 7, 21:44:18
- And it's tricky (NCFC) - paulg, Nov 7, 21:48:06
- And will the fans want them to stay (NCFC) - jampersands, Nov 7, 21:49:25
- At that point I'd wonder what the sacking had achieved ... (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Nov 7, 21:51:16
- Indeedy doody, but I *think* Webber is planning on New Guy (NCFC) - Old Git, Nov 7, 22:20:25
- Webber is desperate to prove the players he got in are capable of better. Unconvinced on m (n/m) (NCFC) - WalksietheReturn, Nov 7, 23:34:55
- Ah, well that's ok then! I'm in! (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Nov 7, 22:25:56
- Indeedy doody, but I *think* Webber is planning on New Guy (NCFC) - Old Git, Nov 7, 22:20:25
- At that point I'd wonder what the sacking had achieved ... (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Nov 7, 21:51:16
- And will the fans want them to stay (NCFC) - jampersands, Nov 7, 21:49:25
- And it's tricky (NCFC) - paulg, Nov 7, 21:48:06
- Yep vmt unless we have a significant upgrade coming in (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 7, 21:44:18
- Can I ask a question? (NCFC) - APB, Nov 7, 21:37:23
- That's a really really good question.I fell in love with Norwich because we were different (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 7, 21:47:33
- It’s one I struggle with myself. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Nov 7, 21:47:06
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