Did you ever watch 'House', the TV show?

The running gag was that every patient was diagnosed with Lupus at some point in every episode. My understanding is that a diagnosis of Lupus takes approx one year+ (hence the juxtaposition with House's diagnoses within very short time frames) and that many autoimmune diseases only become apparent in the long term.

To what extent can you rule out long term detrimental outcomes from a vaccine from a short term study? The risk of death from sarcoidosis is approximately the same as from covid.

So again, getting back to risk balance, is it worth taking a small risk on a not-fully-tested-vaccine against a known risk of contracting covid?

There isnt much point discussing because at this time we, in the UK, have no available vaccine options. Being not-so-old and relatively healthy I am somewhat down the line in being vaccinated so I basically hope there is a decent vaccine that minimalises the most detrimental outcomes which has minimal side effects that everyone takes.

If the worst comes to the worst and there are significant side effects to this Russian vaccine or to a potential UK vaccine, please bear in mind the political pressure on those being applied to the scientists and regulators.

Posted By: Timmy_Goat on August 11th 2020 at 20:57:18

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Russian first with a covid-19 vaccine. Form an orderly queue.... (General Chat) - Mozzer, Aug 11, 17:58:27
- If it means getting fans back to football grounds then yes please! (General Chat) - Norfolk un Way, Aug 11, 18:41:03
- They are truly amazing country, I hope they don’t (General Chat) - Malkybarneedledick, Aug 11, 18:18:32
  - Maybe they were just testing out a botched proto type last time? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Aug 11, 18:20:17
- the world is going fuck off have you got one (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Aug 11, 18:08:44
- Thats a no from me Clive (n/m) (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Aug 11, 18:02:33
  - what having the vaccine or the russian vaccine (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Aug 11, 18:07:46
    - I am a research scientist - it is complicated (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Aug 11, 18:24:39
      - Polio vaccine springs to mind as example (n/m) (General Chat) - Agatha Fisty, Aug 11, 20:17:40
        
        Have you heard of a book called "Dr Mary's monkeys "? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Aug 11, 20:22:17
      - Good answer (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Aug 11, 19:43:36
      - Have researched covid? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Aug 11, 18:26:57
        
        I'm looking at ways to clean blood prior to transfusion (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Aug 11, 18:54:57
        
        Ahh,I was just going to say that symptoms are very much like sarcoidosis,though at times (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Aug 11, 19:27:24
        
        Did you ever watch 'House', the TV show? (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Aug 11, 20:57:18
        
        Absolutely,it was just something I'd been thinking (the similarities).👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Aug 11, 21:04:58
        
        Thanks for posting Timmy (n/m) (General Chat) - Mozzer, Aug 11, 19:26:35
        
        Top stuff . (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Aug 11, 18:57:33
        
        You. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Aug 11, 18:27:58

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