Oh well

We obviously aren't going to agree. I don't think Beattie is all THAT good, certainly not good enough for England. He's been an average-at-best Prem striker for a long time now. He is obviously better than Horse but a similar sort of hustle/bustle, muscular, elbows out type of striker. Hence my description of him as a "rich man's Horsfield". He can do things Horsefield can't, but he's still only an average-at-best Prem striker.

Obviously if you rate Beattie more highly you won't agree the characterisation. But it's a lot more accurate than calling Gerrard a rich man's Hughes, there being no relevant point of comparison between them at all.

Posted By: Old Git on March 21st 2006 at 15:52:47

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england team 4 the world cup (Other Football) - otbc2006, Mar 21, 15:19:18
- What are you on??! (Other Football) - Riverking, Mar 21, 16:46:56
- Hughes in for Gerrard (n/m) (Other Football) - Extreme Green, Mar 21, 15:41:09
  - You`re all wrong (Other Football) - Westfields1, Mar 21, 17:32:03
  - Agreed... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Mar 21, 15:44:53
    - lol (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Mar 21, 16:08:50
- Carrick ahead of Lampard (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:30:18
  - lampards out of form right now (Other Football) - otbc2006, Mar 21, 15:31:35
    - Form is temporary, class is permanent (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:34:56
      - which is why lampard has never been brilliant for england when it counts (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:36:47
        
        Couldn't agree less, he is by far our best midfielder (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:44:58
        
        Portugal 2004 (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:46:24
        
        Cole won't get much chance, I bet he's used as a supersub (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:48:16
        
        He retired from the England team in 2002. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Mar 21, 15:54:15
        
        One of? You should take a look at ours more... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Mar 21, 15:47:41
        
        Ha ha (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Mar 21, 15:40:04
  - Lampard shocking at the moment (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:31:16
    - "shocking" ? (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Mar 21, 15:33:21
      - no, shocking, and he only got away with kicking out at Michael Brown on saturday cos of (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:36:01
        
        So are Chelsea your new hate target now that Man Yoo aren't winning everything? (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:38:21
        
        I don't hate chelsea in the slightest (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:42:07
        
        i have watched the terry incident about 10 times (Other Football) - otbc2006, Mar 21, 15:48:12
        
        terry wasn't going for the ball, hence he steamed in and missed (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:50:10
        
        Don't Chelsea just do a lot of the things that made Man Utd so detestable, though? (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Mar 21, 15:44:46
        
        yeah they do, but I don't hate them (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:47:46
        
        I see Chelsea as New Labour and Man Yoo as the Tories. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Mar 21, 15:51:53
        
        I remember many on here saying I only hated man utd cos they were successful (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:55:18
        
        The terms on which Chelsea have been successful are horrendous, though. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Mar 21, 15:57:59
        
        I agree, ferguson came along, mouthed off and won stuff (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 16:04:27
        
        I'm rather hoping they do... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Mar 21, 15:53:22
        
        Ha ha. Same tune, different target (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Mar 21, 15:44:03
- Beattie. AHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Mar 21, 15:24:51
  - Beattie is a rich man's Horsfield (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:34:31
    - A little harsh on Beattie... (Other Football) - Dr Baker, Mar 21, 15:38:38
      - That's why he's the RICH man's Horse (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:45:44
        
        And Gerrard is the rich man's Hughes... (Other Football) - Dr Baker, Mar 21, 15:48:20
        
        Oh well (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:52:47
        
        As I said in my original post... (Other Football) - Dr Baker, Mar 21, 16:00:12
      - beattie is quality (Other Football) - otbc2006, Mar 21, 15:39:59
        
        How's his international record ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Mar 21, 15:44:23
- Where's crouch? (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:23:51
  - beattie is in better form, tough on crouch but there u go (n/m) (Other Football) - otbc2006, Mar 21, 15:28:12
    - Crouch has changed or had a major involvement in every england match he's played (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:32:20
      - Crouch or Ashton, pants? (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:36:28
        
        In what context? (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:43:35
        
        For the Germany squad of course (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 21, 15:46:02
        
        Crouch all the way (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:56:00
        
        heres one to make you laugh too, the way he's playing (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 15:56:35
        
        I think that's a fair shout... (Other Football) - Dr Baker, Mar 21, 16:02:34
        
        both (n/m) (Other Football) - giant_Ullaa, Mar 21, 15:41:28
        
        Yeah, I agree with that... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Mar 21, 15:51:06
  - Look up (n/m) (Other Football) - Dr Baker, Mar 21, 15:24:50
- What?? (Other Football) - conker, Mar 21, 15:21:30

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