one of Blair's biggest tricks

was to understand that he needed Tory voters to change their minds and vote for him and his party.

Calling everyone who ever voted Tory a c**t isn't the best way of doing that.

Telling anyone that points that out that they are a "Red Tory" isn't going to help with that.

It isn't Corbyn, per se, that puts me off voting Labour, it's many of his most fervant supporters that do that.

In between elections there's a constant stream telling me that I'm not 'pure' enough and that i should just f**k off and become a real Tory. After years of that I'm just supposed to swing behind these same people, or else I'm evil?

It's the tribalism that's killing it for Labour.

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on December 12th 2019 at 10:11:55

Message Thread

What were elections like before social media / 24/7 news coverage? (General Chat) - lurd, Dec 12, 09:20:57
- Better. Far better in fact. Predominantly policies not personalities. (n/m) (General Chat) - Saucerer, Dec 12, 11:23:13
- Uni flat mates were a mix (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 12, 10:30:15
- It was quite nice to have a sort of beginning, middle and end. (General Chat) - Huge Small, Dec 12, 10:01:08
- The country wasn’t as divided in 2001 as it is now (General Chat) - tim berry, Dec 12, 09:46:35
  - Good summary (n/m) (General Chat) - CauldRon, Dec 12, 10:12:49
  - One of Blair's biggest tricks was to get the media onside too (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Dec 12, 09:56:13
    - one of Blair's biggest tricks (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 12, 10:11:55
      - Excellent post 100% agree (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Dec 12, 12:31:41
      - 100% this (General Chat) - lurd, Dec 12, 10:34:30
        
        Miliband would have stormed this election. (n/m) (General Chat) - tim berry, Dec 12, 12:03:55
      - much sense in that (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 12, 10:29:43
      - Yeah, that's correct too (General Chat) - duke of york, Dec 12, 10:14:05
        
        Blair appealed to people rather than divided them (General Chat) - duke of york, Dec 12, 10:17:41
        
        strikes me that the current labour party (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 12, 10:31:11
        
        Blair got people like me to vote for him (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 12, 10:30:00
        
        that (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 12, 10:42:32
        
        Yeah, it's very sad what's happened to both main parties (General Chat) - duke of york, Dec 12, 10:34:29
  - Sounds about right (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Dec 12, 09:52:14
  - Amazing to think that die hard Labour voters will be voting Tory to "Get Brexit Done" (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Dec 12, 09:51:39
    - Equally, there are some die hard Tories vowing to vote Labour. (General Chat) - tim berry, Dec 12, 09:53:28
- Like the footy, you waited until the Pink Un arrived to read the match report! (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Dec 12, 09:46:16
- Less terrible. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 12, 09:37:41
  - Ha, yep (General Chat) - duke of york, Dec 12, 09:39:07
    - was there always the desire to promise the moon? (n/m) (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Dec 12, 09:53:00
      - Yeah, they've always done that (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Dec 12, 09:54:17

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