The have cake will eat it position

Both on the Brexit deal and with their supporters.

Which way has Corbyn whipped the party most on Brexit?

He'd whip them to vote for it, nothing neutral in it.

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on September 23rd 2019 at 20:53:08

Message Thread

I don’t do politics. But I’m voting Liberal at the next election (General Chat) - Yurik Hunt, Sep 23, 19:51:36
- Voted liberal and then libdem every election - never again. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Sep 23, 21:31:34
- I think their Brexit position is the only sensible one (General Chat) - jAC, Sep 23, 20:39:48
  - revoking A50 without going putting it back to the public is sensible? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:47:23
    - he's talking about the Labour position (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 23, 21:36:24
  - That and the fact they haven't spoken about anything else in 3 years (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 20:41:36
- I'm going to vote Tory. Because as much as they fuck everyone over, somehow (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 20:38:41
  - Cut the bullshit, the fact you refer to the current PM as BoJo (General Chat) - FreshBlood, Sep 23, 20:41:48
    - As I've said, I've yet to look at lib dems partly because they only talk about one policy (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 20:56:09
      - the labour manifesto hasn't been written yet (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 23, 21:37:22
        
        I read the one from 2017. I doubt much will change (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 21:52:20
      - Ketts, aside the EU debate, which Tory policies are you in favour of?... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Sep 23, 21:13:13
        
        Sure (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 21:32:57
        
        Anything pension wise/nhs doesn't really affect me at this current time (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 21:37:24
- Yeah I hate democracy too so going to vote Lib Dem as a protest vote (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Sep 23, 20:15:39
- Surely another referendum is the best way to get everyone to shut up for a bit. (General Chat) - Huge Small, Sep 23, 20:11:19
  - well, there's only one party that's even offering a people's vote now (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:16:45
- I'm at the anyone but Corbyn and McDonnell stage (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 23, 20:05:52
  - come off it paul (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:09:15
    - I've voted for almost every party about actually (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 23, 20:13:29
- the libdems just want to revoke A50 though. There's no way they'll win enough seats on tha (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:00:51
  - Corbyn would be a disaster (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 23, 20:39:32
  - You skipped over the 32 hour working week. Oh and the socialism part (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 20:15:12
  - lolf. (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 23, 20:10:18
    - you know that's not true Ralf. Labour clearly favour remain massively, but want to (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:15:40
      - you think the Labour approach will quell unrest? (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 23, 21:40:30
        
        no, but there's no clear way out of the impasse now (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 21:54:38
        
        and that's why today's decision not to campaign for remain was important (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 21:56:38
        
        A vote for Labour is a vote for ambiguity! (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 23, 22:51:57
        
        a vote for the lib-dems is a vote for the status quo. Remember that (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 22:55:04
        
        Not a bad tag line that, vote winner IMO (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 23, 23:23:14
      - The have cake will eat it position (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 23, 20:53:08
        
        Labour pòlicy is a public vote on any deal so the whip means nothing (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:57:34
        
        eh? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 23, 21:17:00
        
        of course they would (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 21:33:06
        
        Negotiating a deal that you then want people to vote against isn't? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 23, 22:45:20
        
        there has to be two options ralf, do try not to be facetious about it (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 22:53:40
        
        so you wouldn't have No Deal on there? (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 23, 23:29:35
      - Labour will not get the support they need to do anything. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 23, 20:26:26
        
        the party line is to remain neutral, otherwise they'd get smashed in the GE (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:33:52
        
        Lib Dem the best of three very bad options. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 23, 20:49:49
        
        I appreciate your experience in education (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 20:58:57
        
        Sorry, misread your statement thought you were for the policy (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 20:59:57
        
        and just for you as I have to point this out on twitter constantly: (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:35:28
        
        For a campaigner, he didn’t campaign well during the referendum. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 23, 20:45:20
        
        for anyone wanting to remain it's literally the only option (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 20:51:06
        
        What if we don't want to remain, what's our option worzel? Labour again? (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 21:05:02
        
        vote for the tory scum, simple (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 21:07:32
        
        Look fella, you can continue to treat people you disagree with as "scum" (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 21:51:10
        
        So everyone is scum now, apart from Labour supporters?! (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 23, 21:38:24
        
        Great, so he has no principles then after being a lifelong Eurosceptic (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 20:44:36
        
        if you can't see the logic then there's no point talking to you (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 23, 21:08:23
        
        There is no logic on sitting on the fence (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 23, 21:42:04
- Imagine what an actual opposition would do to this government. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 23, 19:58:45
  - Polly Toynbee has just summed it up beautifully (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 23, 20:00:37
- I can see the country being divided for ever now, give it a few years and they'll be just (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Sep 23, 19:58:41
- Top man Yurik and I'm joining you, bear just been opened. Going to play some piano. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Sep 23, 19:54:42

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