many of the people who now claim to despise the EU and free movement etc were silent when

those treaties were agreed, particularly Maastricht, which brought in the social union, was backed by the tory government despite significant concerns and opposition by the public, not just of britain but many other nations too

Posted By: Worzel Scrimmage on September 4th 2019 at 22:20:00

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JC stating on what terms he wants a general election (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 21:45:22
- Au contraire, I think most fully understand why he wants to wait (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 4, 21:54:59
  - I agree, but the message it sends his base that might not be up to speed (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 21:59:01
  - You are not connected to the great British Public... (General Chat) - promethian1, Sep 4, 21:58:18
    - Exactly, they actually have a real chance to engage and galvanise their prospective voter (General Chat) - lurd, Sep 4, 22:05:08
    - I think any strategy is beyond the wit of Sun readers tbf (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 4, 22:00:12
      - You and I know that... the rest only cares about love island or similar (n/m) (General Chat) - promethian1, Sep 4, 22:03:40
    - Exactly, front page "JC rejects general election" (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 21:59:29
- Because he wants no-deal off the table first? (General Chat) - wayne, Sep 4, 21:52:28
  - An outright opportunity to have a general election (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 21:56:40
    - Do labour voters seriously think they can win the election ? (General Chat) - wayne, Sep 4, 22:00:31
      - I'm on the assumption that the majority of labour voters believe anything is possible (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 22:02:23
        
        Purely because they are pissed off with middle-of-the-road politicians... (General Chat) - wayne, Sep 4, 22:06:11
        
        Corbyn and Momentum largely only appeal to those who already supporting them. (General Chat) - lurd, Sep 4, 22:08:34
        
        Principles of which he draws from his base of both leave/remain (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 22:07:28
  - Corbyn has always hated the EU has to be? (General Chat) - lurd, Sep 4, 21:54:14
    - Hasn't always hated the EU. (General Chat) - wayne, Sep 4, 21:55:39
      - A UK Labour leader will have zilch effect on the ruminations of Brussels. waste of effort (n/m) (General Chat) - promethian1, Sep 4, 22:00:12
      - yep, exactly, and he voted remain (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 4, 21:57:02
        
        His fence sitting over the past 3 years has been atrocious. (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 22:03:38
        
        I personally think this is due to him not really being a good politician. (General Chat) - wayne, Sep 4, 22:11:34
        
        He had to imo. (General Chat) - lurd, Sep 4, 22:02:45
        
        Would be interesting to know the reasons behind his votes. (General Chat) - wayne, Sep 4, 22:14:57
        
        many of the people who now claim to despise the EU and free movement etc were silent when (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 4, 22:20:00
        
        He’s spent most of his political life agitating and voting against the whip. (General Chat) - lurd, Sep 4, 22:16:51
- He’s never wanted to be a leader at all imo (General Chat) - lurd, Sep 4, 21:50:42
  - Well he's spent the last however many years begging for a general election (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 21:52:41
    - no, there will be another opportunity very soon (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 4, 21:56:16
      - Again I agree but the point was his base will not see it like that (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 22:00:30
        
        I disagree, I think they will (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 4, 22:03:22
        
        I guess the polls will give an indication either way (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 22:06:27
- Also the first time an opposition leader has not voted for a general election (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 4, 21:47:10

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