Rule 12 Fouls and Misconduct

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.

The following must be considered:
the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence

So, a ricochet from leg to arm - whatever position the arm is in, which could not reasonably be avoided by moving the arm due to the normal reaction time (about half a second) is unequivocably NOT A FOUL...

Posted By: Cannydc on April 15th 2019 at 09:33:55

Message Thread

Rule 12 Fouls and Misconduct (NCFC) - Cannydc, Apr 15, 09:33:55
- It wasn't a penalty but their disallowed goal wasn't offside either (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Apr 15, 09:47:57
  - Course it was (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 09:57:30
    - Watching the replay it didn't seem it to me, I'd like to be proved wrong though (NCFC) - Adster, Apr 15, 10:07:09
      - Here you go (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 10:16:06
        
        Offside rule needs to be daylight (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 15, 10:43:49
        
        Agree. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Apr 15, 13:01:25
        
        Now you’re just taking the piss (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 10:47:47
        
        Justify to me why that goal should not be allowed (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 15, 13:26:41
        
        p.s I'm saying the offside rule should be CHANGED to daylight (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 15, 13:27:44
        
        Yep, offside. Doesn't it have to be any part of the body which can legally touch the ball? (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 15, 10:24:21
        
        Yeah chest is without doubt ahead (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 10:27:37
        
        Ball's already clearly left the taker's foot there though. (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 15, 10:18:40
        
        Oh come on it’s blurred in between foot and leaving (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 10:24:15
        
        Not sure the linesman can be "frame by frame" accurate tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 15, 10:22:30
        
        Well that's exactly my point (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 15, 10:39:10
  - Blatant offside. Leg and shoulder past the offside line (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Apr 15, 09:55:07
    - Hand may have been offside but I don't know if that counts (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Apr 15, 10:03:13
      - His body was offside too - the camera angle makes it look like just his arm (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 15, 10:31:27
      - The arm was miles ahead of everyone else (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 10:10:18
        
        so "half a yard" equals "miles"? (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 15, 10:17:26
        
        Absolutely right (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 15, 10:44:38
        
        I think with VAR he might not have flagged (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 15, 10:23:22
        
        i think you can guarantee he wouldn't have flagged (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 15, 11:16:45
        
        I’m 100% VAR then gives offside (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 10:26:58
        
        No that was only his arm (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 10:21:37
        
        Just posted above that his body was off too (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 15, 10:32:27
- But he charged the ball down (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 09:38:11
  - It didn't hit it directly, so irrelevant. Stop digging (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 15, 10:26:01
  - You try charging forwards, leaning backwards to thrust his legs forward (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 15, 09:48:36
    - Anyway, by far the most annoying thing about it (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 15, 09:50:17
      - And they scored the penalty (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 09:55:33
  - He was trying to block it with his leg (and did) (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 15, 09:44:54
    - For me he raises his arm as he charges it down (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 09:54:06
      - He doesn't raise his arms (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 15, 10:10:16
      - Have you ever tried to slide on the floor? (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 15, 09:58:17
    - VMT (n/m) (NCFC) - Cannydc, Apr 15, 09:46:46
  - How is that actually relevant? (NCFC) - Cannydc, Apr 15, 09:43:17
    - Why did he clutch his face immediately? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 09:47:09
      - Again not relevant. Nothing in the rules about that (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 15, 10:28:22
        
        Conning the ref is allowed? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 15, 10:32:22
        
        He clutched his face cos he couldn't believe it had been given (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 15, 10:35:18
      - Gutted a pen had been awarded (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 15, 09:59:04
  - Doesn’t that count as movement towards the ball? (NCFC) - APB, Apr 15, 09:43:11
    - His arm didn't move towards the ball (NCFC) - Cannydc, Apr 15, 09:45:38
- #unexpectedball (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 15, 09:36:56

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