don't know how you arrived at that notion

i'm all for a secular state me. but i'm not sure that's the subject in hand

fundamentally, i'd be delighted if religion was completely removed and separate from all these institutions and processes. but it isnt

pragmatically, i reckon the pope commenting on whether or not a potential future leader of the worlds biggest power is a christian or not, based on the policies he espouses, is about fair enough. it falls within his purview. and as it goes, what the pope said was pretty measured, just said a person who built walls rather than bridges was not a christian. you might say thats fundamentally untrue or hypocritical, but i've no problem with his right to say it

Posted By: matt in london on February 18th 2016 at 19:44:23

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Trump arguing with the Pope. Good one (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 18, 18:29:20
- To be fair to Trump (never thought I'd say those words) (General Chat) - King, Feb 18, 18:43:00
  - don't see the problem with it myself (n/m) (General Chat) - matt in london, Feb 18, 19:05:37
    - So you don't believe in a secular state? (n/m) (General Chat) - King, Feb 18, 19:18:30
      - France is a secular state (General Chat) - shoddy, Feb 18, 19:57:46
      - don't know how you arrived at that notion (General Chat) - matt in london, Feb 18, 19:44:23
        
        Similar to Muslim leaders saying terrorists aren't Muslim (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 18, 19:45:54
  - Agree, not a great precedent to set. But given it's Trump. I don't blame him tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 18, 18:59:29
    - So why's it okay for the Pope to have a big fuck off wall (General Chat) - harry boulders, Feb 18, 19:06:01
      - I'm defending the Pope. Just it amusing Trump runs the risk of alienating his (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 18, 19:44:00
        
        *not defending, sorry (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 18, 19:44:23
    - I don't those opinions are logically compatible. (n/m) (General Chat) - King, Feb 18, 19:00:17
      - Generally speaking, not a good idea to get involved with politics (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 18, 19:42:54
        
        Trump is on the same level as Hitler............ (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 18, 19:47:15
        
        He's on a similar spectrum, granted there's a fair wedge between them both (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 19, 00:15:40
        
        He's a mad man in my opinion who knows how to exploit his wealth. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Feb 18, 20:37:54
        
        Not saying it's against you USA, but do you have a gun at home where you are there? (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Feb 18, 20:52:51
- Turned out okay for HenryVIII (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Feb 18, 18:41:30
  - Henry was already the King, trump is just a wannabe King! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 18, 22:41:35
  - Is this what Trump's going to do next then. Behead all his exs? (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 18, 18:59:03
- Trump does like to alienate large groups of people.......... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 18, 18:33:03
  - Erm think you'll find the Pope started this one?! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 18, 23:04:07
  - as does the pope (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Feb 18, 18:58:31
    - Good point, well made. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Feb 18, 19:15:40

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