Talking about Canaries Player and the prices etc. A comparison....

I truly don't understand their business case. Anyone want to take a guess at how many paid subscriptions they have ?

37.99 PER YEAR for.....

Live Audio, no live video;
The live audio is available on Radio Norfolk for FREE for anybody who can receive it (i.e. 80% of the listeners)
Recorded video / highlights from ONE club only;
Works only (I think) on PC and Mac (i.e. not all content is also available on mobile devices).
And all this for a second tier team at the moment - but I think the prices are the same whether you are in the Prem or League 2. And in fact it is less use anyway once you're in the Prem as you can actually watch a stream of any game you want anyway...

Just a comparison for example with a product I know well - NFL Gamepass (the official American Football one):

Firstly, they don't even allow you to buy a subscription which lasts longer than the end of the season (which is defined as July 31st - basically the start of the next pre-season). So the prices are now gone and the only subscription you can buy now is about 20 quid until then, but there are no live games of course.

I paid around 100 GBP for the entire year. Had I thought of it I could have searched for a promo code which would have brought it down to about 85 quid for the entire year.
This includes the following:
LIVE full HD streaming of ALL games in the NFL, and amazing quality. You can choose which one you would like when more are live together, and keep switching.
You can even watch up to FOUR at the same time on one screen (PC/Mac).
It has complete live stats, other scores etc all built in which you can turn on or off as you like.
You can switch the live commentary between the network commentary, home, away or Spanish.
Once ANY game (in the past 4 years I think) is finished, you can watch it AS LIVE, condensed (all stoppages removed) or coaches view (two different camera angles, no sound).
You have the same functionality on any tablet, smartphone as well as PC or Mac.
You can download games to watch offline (at least on tablet and smartphone).

So that is just the live part.

Then, not only do you get 24/7 live NFL Network (kind of like Sky Sports News), and Redzone (kind of like Sky Sports News during a game where they show all the scores as they go in), but you also get the last four years archives of all the documentaries and TV shows licensed by the NFL (Hard Knocks, A Football Life, NFL Films, etc, etc, etc) and at any time can watch any Superbowl ever.

That is for the entire league by the way. If you are only interested in one team you can have all the above but only the games of one team for about half the price. Which would be not much more than Canaries Player. And as the season moves on and games are played, the price comes down pro rata with how much of the season is left.

Of course this services also replaces Sky Sports. So that's never gonna happen. But it is worth every penny. And the quality is so good that I can watch the games live via either my iPhone or my iPad, airplay them on the TV and it's 720p quality every time.

Not trying to sell that as I know there aren't many people into the sport, but it annoys me that even a money grabbing league like the NFL can come up with a service like this while in the UK you have to spend about 60 quid a month just to watch all the Premiership games! And even then have less of a service than this.

And NCFC (and all the other customers of that Premium service) still think people are going to pay another 38 quid a year to listen to the radio twice a week ?!

I don't blame the club as much as the league and potentially the UK laws or policy on sports broadcasting. I mean, NFL Gamepass is great and all that as I said. I can watch it anywhere - was watching it in a bar in Tenerife this year - except in the UK one game a week (the one on Sky) is blacked out, and ALL the playoff games are also blacked out ONLY if you are in the UK. Not any other country I am aware of....

PS: NFL GamePass was free in the Netherlands for two seasons until this year. I was more than happy to pay for it.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on March 8th 2015 at 12:59:50

Message Thread

Talking about Canaries Player and the prices etc. A comparison.... (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 12:59:50
- It simply get's my goat that people can't listen to the games on the Internet... (NCFC) - DrDublin, Mar 8, 15:16:01
- One more thing, I think Radio Norfolk should split away..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 8, 15:08:59
- I agree on most points but just a couple of things...... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 8, 14:35:54
- that is one beefy post. blimey (NCFC) - robotbear, Mar 8, 14:24:47
  - Getting lessons from the BigFeller (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 14:58:56
    - Interesting post btw, thanks (n/m) (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Mar 8, 15:12:13
  - Nurse.....he is out again....... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 8, 14:27:48
- I cancelled mine for the first time recently - if had it for years (NCFC) - trianglepatch, Mar 8, 14:16:14
  - Same here. I was renewed by default by NCFC last season (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Mar 8, 14:21:36
  - How did you cancel it (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Mar 8, 14:21:17
    - Log in to NCFC website with email or customer number (n/m) (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Mar 8, 14:22:01
- I paid the first year when it was 19 pounds. 39 is just ridiculous. (n/m) (NCFC) - John in Texas, Mar 8, 13:14:32
  - Me too. When there was a split for audio only I paid every year. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 13:27:09
    - Me too when Miranda Nagalingam was running it. (n/m) (NCFC) - John in Texas, Mar 8, 13:37:08
      - Did a quick google on Miranda (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Mar 8, 14:27:13
- canaries player is pretty shit but (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 8, 13:08:37
  - If they added live video streams I would pay 60 a year. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 13:23:58
    - I would pay X amount per game for a high quality feed (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 8, 14:39:36
    - absolutely, but I imagine it isn't possible (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 8, 13:30:25
      - Wouldn't make sense simply because of the TV deals indeed. But the NFL signed TV deals for (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 13:34:03
        
        That makes no sense because......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 8, 14:41:43
        
        I guess the blackouts are a factor (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 8, 13:39:48
    - And if they had an audio commentary only for 15 a year I would pay that too (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 13:27:27
- could that possibly be (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Mar 8, 13:07:42
  - Should compare him to the League Chairman, not McNally (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 13:28:27
    - the FL don't deign to publish salaries (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Mar 8, 13:56:32
- I used to get that and the mlb one (NCFC) - CauldRon, Mar 8, 13:05:25
  - No blackouts anymore, and I agree about the comparison. (NCFC) - John in Texas, Mar 8, 13:13:01
    - John, how do you stream Radio Norfolk? Surely you aren't (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, Mar 8, 13:59:57
    - It's not NCFC to blame as I said, it's the whole Sky thing and the leagues. They DO still (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 13:26:53
      - The closest thing, and still not anywhere near the service, is NowTV. 11 quid a week! And (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 8, 13:31:45

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