PM: TBF
I'm not Jewish but my name sounds like I might be, and I got some interesting reactions in Hungary. When I bought my month pass for the metro, the very old dear selling it to me saw my name and spat at me. In general the older generation - say over 65 or so - were hostile when they learned my name. This was in the early 1990s.
Conversely people under about 45 were deeply embarrassed by the fact of this residual anti-Semitism so went too far the other way. "Oh, you must be Jewish. Great! Come round, can I get you something..."
I never clarified that I wasn't in fact Jewish (I made the mistake of doing that in England once, and the guy I was talking to said "Hah thought you weren't your nose isn't big enough and you were quite happy to get your round in" or some such. I decided I'd much rather be thought of as Jewish than feed that kind of crass anti-Semitic bulls**t.)
All this was just after the Berlin Wall had fallen (I was there under the auspices of the World Bank). Of course this was perceived in the West as Communism being swept away, but actually any Communists with half an ounce of common sense saw the way the wind was blowing and switched sides in the months leading up to the change. So in most of the bureaucracy most of the people were actually the same people, with the same corruption and the same nepotism and so on, they just called themselves something different.
Hungary did really well in the decade or two after the Wall came down. I still loosely follow events there and it worries me the way the country has felt like it's going for the last five or seven years or so. I hope they get through it.
Posted By: Old Man on February 10th 2015 at 11:16:06
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- PM: TBF (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 10, 11:16:06
- The older generation of Hungarians are well know for their anti-semetism.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 10, 11:40:56
- Interesting. re the English bit of that... (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Feb 10, 11:34:55
- I think Islamaphobia is far more prevalent in the UK than anti-semitism? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 10, 12:32:15
- I agree. But it's also the case that anti-Semitism has sharply risen since Gaza. (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 10, 12:34:56
- Comes from the Muslim world feeling disregarded by the West. Blair's War and everything th (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Feb 10, 12:05:38
- Yes the role of Saudi in particular disturbs me greatly (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 10, 12:12:03
- Did you see Bitter Lake on iPlayer? Interesting stuff about the Saudi/US relationship. (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Feb 10, 12:34:58
- No I haven't but it looks really interesting. (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 10, 12:44:48
- They're also fucking up our oil and gas industry........ (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 10, 12:27:29
- Yes, they have the lowest production costs I believe? Plus the cash reserves for a seige (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Feb 10, 12:46:58
- No, north sea needs 80 bucks plus to be viable in the longer term.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 10, 13:40:39
- On-shore fracking is the way forward. (sits back and observes) (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Feb 10, 14:11:04
- Won't happen here, NIMBY's rule OK! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 10, 15:35:53
- On-shore fracking is the way forward. (sits back and observes) (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Feb 10, 14:11:04
- No, north sea needs 80 bucks plus to be viable in the longer term.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 10, 13:40:39
- Yes, they have the lowest production costs I believe? Plus the cash reserves for a seige (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Feb 10, 12:46:58
- Did you see Bitter Lake on iPlayer? Interesting stuff about the Saudi/US relationship. (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Feb 10, 12:34:58
- Without wanting to keep on about this... (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Feb 10, 12:10:15
- There's no doubt in my mind that anti-Semitism is latent in most countries, but the West h (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Feb 10, 12:25:47
- My wife and step-daughter don't experience any anti Russian sentiments here! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 10, 12:29:56
- That's a good point (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 10, 12:15:05
- There's no doubt in my mind that anti-Semitism is latent in most countries, but the West h (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Feb 10, 12:25:47
- Yes the role of Saudi in particular disturbs me greatly (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 10, 12:12:03
- Until recently it's been at a lower level (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 10, 11:54:51
- You think the peope who recyle those old lines about money-grabbing etc (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Feb 10, 12:00:24
- Oh the noses thing was decades ago now (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 10, 12:03:43
- You think the peope who recyle those old lines about money-grabbing etc (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Feb 10, 12:00:24
- I think Islamaphobia is far more prevalent in the UK than anti-semitism? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 10, 12:32:15
- Is your name Hoyveh Pretzel Hannukka? (n/m) (General Chat) - MIKEWALKER, Feb 10, 11:17:56
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