Please don't tell me people want Italy's 'fan culture' in England

It's a complete disgrace. Ultras (read, very often, hooligans, racists and fascists) holding their clubs to ransom and prevening the sport being cleaned up; just as they do in South America.

Elsewhere, Serie A - which when I was growing up, was the absolute benchmark: brilliant players, vibrant supporters, Peter Brackley welcoming us to the San Siro, Ray Wilkins calling everything 'fabulous', James Richardson slurping gelati, reading the Gazzetta and with the best job on planet Earth - has now fallen to 5th in Europe. Below Portugal, for heavens sake.

Stadiums are half full, hooliganism is everywhere, teams are nowhere in Europe, match-fixing is endemic. It's a complete disgrace. UEFA should step in as they did with England 30 years ago; if Italy won't clean up their act, they should be made to instead.

Posted By: thebigfeller on May 3rd 2014 at 20:21:37

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Please don't tell me people want Italy's 'fan culture' in England (Other Football) - thebigfeller, May 3, 20:21:37
- i don't think people meant that, it's just a long eay removed from our sanitized stadiums. (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, May 3, 20:26:24
  - I'd far, far, far rather football now compared with football 30 years ago (Other Football) - thebigfeller, May 3, 20:28:32
    - the happy medium yes, football now is terribly over policed, understandabk (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, May 3, 20:35:00
      - good little read on the subject (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, May 3, 20:36:42
- no but i like the power their fans have (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, May 3, 20:24:35
  - and its 1000000 x more interesting than the premiership (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, May 3, 20:27:50
    - It's not. It's fucking tedious. And tonight: Napoli player has to ask the permission of (Other Football) - thebigfeller, May 3, 20:30:08
      - and thats because the fans have so much power. if 1 is dead they wont let it go ahead (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, May 3, 20:33:23
        
        You're such a fool (Other Football) - Terry Tibbs, May 3, 20:54:20
        
        a death that, if confirmed, was caused by said ultras (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, May 3, 20:37:11
      - in england we get some knobhead refusing to shake some other knobheads hand (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, May 3, 20:32:42
        
        Well - when you put it like that... :D (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, May 3, 20:34:33
- Oh yes, Italian fan culture is awful. An 80's throwback. (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, May 3, 20:23:46
- Ultras = Hooligans (Other Football) - phrankin, May 3, 20:22:41
  - Chum of mine is a former ultra... (n/m) (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, May 3, 20:27:30
  - Correct. (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, May 3, 20:24:21
    - often but not always in my experience (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 3, 20:43:32
      - Vast. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 3, 22:05:35
  - not true, Palace 'ultras' have caused no trouble (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, May 3, 20:24:12
    - yep, it's more of a latin culture, doesn't' necassarily mean hooligans, but in italy , (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, May 3, 20:30:51
    - That's because they are 'ultras', not ultras. (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, May 3, 20:30:13

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