no, I agree that he isn't a great captain

although the squad is hardly overflowing with decent alternatives.

The fact is though, that since we returned to the Prem, our clean sheet record is awful without him, but very good when he has played.

Posted By: Mecagoenti on April 27th 2014 at 11:57:34

Message Thread

Why is our best defender not playing at the moment? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 11:42:31
- I think it's clearly obvious he was Hughton's favourite and rightly (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 27, 12:10:15
  - Or wrongly Adams has decided he doesn't fancy him being there. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 27, 12:10:43
- A much better choice than R Martin... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 12:01:01
- I think his tendency to 'done tools' and not take responsibility are the reason. (NCFC) - walksie, Apr 27, 11:45:41
  - not sure I agree that he downs tools - he's always had lapses in concentration (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 11:49:51
    - He is the worst Captain we've ever had. (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 27, 11:54:55
      - no, I agree that he isn't a great captain (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 11:57:34
      - fotheringham (n/m) (NCFC) - matt in london, Apr 27, 11:57:07
        
        *shudders* (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Apr 27, 12:08:24
- Sulking. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 27, 11:45:08
- He's incredibly average (n/m) (NCFC) - inutero, Apr 27, 11:44:44
  - you wouldn't have said that last season. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 27, 12:03:16
    - I did say that last season (n/m) (NCFC) - inutero, Apr 27, 12:14:11
    - last season people were claiming he was our best ever defender (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 12:06:56
      - Because he went all Adebayor on us... (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 12:07:49
        
        I haven't seen any complacency from him (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 12:12:11
        
        Falls into the humdrum, no urgency, uninterested. Just like Adebayor's "2nd seasons" (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 12:16:02
        
        disagree with that - he's made a few errors (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 12:18:47
        
        we'll have to agree to disagree.... Yawn! (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 12:24:26
  - that may be true, but he's still our best defender (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 11:47:52
    - I like Turner actually.... He is a better 'defender'. More Terry than Ferdinand of course (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 11:58:16
      - I like Turner as well, although I think he tends to dive in a bit too much (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 12:02:09
        
        B+T are a good pairing for us. I'd very much like to see Yobo here next term though (NCFC) - Old Man, Apr 27, 12:08:59
        
        They make an excellent pairing for us. I don't know why Adams is playing Martin (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 12:06:49

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