just catching up on the case....so dont know the full facts..

But in my day, the rules of engagement were that it was lawful to fire if a warning had been given twice and a threat to life was imminent. I am thinking of the para Lee clegg who shot and killed a joy rider who had failed to stop at a check point in NI....

The definition of 'fire' is to shoot to kill, warning shots were not permitted (the two army corporals who were murdered by a raging mob after accidently driving into an ira funeral pricession made this fatal mistake).

Posted By: Cheltenham_Canary on January 8th 2014 at 18:12:40

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Really hope the Duggan verdict doesn't cause more riots in North London. (n/m) (General Chat) - walksie, Jan 8, 17:55:30
- yup me too (n/m) (General Chat) - revsimon, Jan 8, 19:53:46
- I wonder if George Osbourne will shed some of his Thatcher tears about it (General Chat) - pants, Jan 8, 18:17:14
  - ? are you ok? (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 8, 18:18:56
  - David Cameron met a black man once, apparently (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 8, 18:18:55
    - time for me to leave.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 8, 18:20:39
      - see ya (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 8, 18:43:27
      - I'm not a socialist. (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 8, 18:22:51
- It *does* seem odd. He didn't have a gun. But was lawfully killed. (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 8, 17:57:29
  - It's where MP's preach about scroungers, then claim on things they don't need to (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 8, 18:19:33
  - Case hinges on the fact he was transporting a gun that was disposed off!? (n/m) (General Chat) - walksie, Jan 8, 18:00:00
    - You've got to think it's something like that (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 8, 18:01:14
      - Wonder if Duggan had seen movies where police say "Throw out the gun and put your arms up. (n/m) (General Chat) - trustsec, Jan 8, 18:49:15
        
        Or the footage of Jean Charles De Menezes co-operating before getting 7 bullets (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 8, 18:54:15
        
        There it is (General Chat) - BagsUnite, Jan 8, 19:00:26
      - The Police are the ones that lose in the long term though (General Chat) - pants, Jan 8, 18:39:48
      - just catching up on the case....so dont know the full facts.. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 8, 18:12:40
        
        The key part is "a threat to life was imminent" (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 8, 18:20:54
        
        The more this kind of thing happens, the more extreme future reactions will be (General Chat) - pants, Jan 8, 18:48:48
        
        but.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 8, 18:22:25
        
        So the SAS are basically the proverbial flock of seagulls coming along,shitting everywhery (General Chat) - pants, Jan 8, 18:53:03
        
        Has to be something like that - thought his phone was a weapon? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 8, 18:23:42
        
        Anyway, someone dying just moves the bar up from (General Chat) - pants, Jan 8, 19:00:12
        
        possible dunno... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 8, 18:27:59

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