Of course not

To be a murderer, someone must have been murdered.

If someone is a paedophile, they may not have actually harmed a child but they may not see any problem with sex with children.

If someone is a fascist they may not have actually committed an atrocity but they will have extreme views that might condone such acts. This is what happened in Italy/Germany/Spain - most people did not commit crimes against humanity, but they accepted the actions of the extremists.

Posted By: Waddockhunt on April 1st 2013 at 15:57:16

Message Thread

Di Canio... (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 1, 14:44:51
- Wow, just wow. Some of the opinions on this post are extraordinary. (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 1, 17:18:55
  - potd (n/m) (Other Football) - Pixelman, Apr 1, 18:21:17
- Ha ha (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 16:41:38
  - Go on Paulo, just say it FFS (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 17:00:24
- ^^^this is how it starts (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:27:54
  - Invading Poland? (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 1, 15:34:42
  - Trying to legitimise fascism is how it starts (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:30:31
    - yep sunderland are totally doing that lol (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:35:17
      - If he repeated his nazi salute in England he would face prosecution (n/m) (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:43:22
        
        so no crime committed then (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:44:42
        
        If he said that he was a paedophile no crime would be committed (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:46:23
        
        surely it would mean a crime would have been committed (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:50:06
        
        Of course not (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:57:16
        
        And countries where the legal age of consent is lower than here? (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 16:10:07
        
        You really are quite ridiculous sometimes. (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 1, 16:20:37
        
        My comment was really aimed at the nazi salute being a crime in England (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 16:23:29
        
        Oh for the sake of holy fuck (n/m) (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 16:16:29
        
        yeah i'm sure there are loads of paedos who have never committed a crime (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 16:02:19
        
        There was even an article in The Guardian praising them (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 16:15:57
        
        FUCKING HELL! (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 16:25:28
        
        O NOES, an article which isn't a knee-jerk moral panic reaction! (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 17:15:09
        
        just paedo propaganda (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 17:17:15
        
        tedious (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 17:18:13
        
        He's said he's a fascist (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 16:14:49
        
        I don't think Facism is inherently anti-semitic, homophobic or anti-disability (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 16:44:06
        
        ROLF clearly defending it (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 16:28:55
        
        I'm not sure 'most people' did accept the actions of extremists (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Apr 1, 15:59:25
        
        Some brave people tried to resist the fascists in Spain (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 16:10:27
        
        I think your opinion is a bit naive on this (n/m) (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Apr 1, 16:21:24
        
        Yes it was (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 16:28:55
        
        Many people fought the Spanish fascists... When they weren't fighting amongst themselves. (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 16:12:41
        
        Some were from Teeside (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 16:25:18
        
        Quite a few British communists went out, like Orwell and Wintringham (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 16:39:23
      - Well, they are. How else are things legitamised? (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:37:27
        
        well norwich city support drink driving and the death penalty then (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:40:02
        
        Ok, fine, they do, and Sunderland support fascism. (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:51:57
        
        Norwich support Trotskyism (Hught)? And the Tories (Holt). (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 16:14:14
        
        Jesus CHRIST (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 17:07:32
        
        FENTON!!! (n/m) (Other Football) - Chris Peacock, Apr 1, 17:13:35
        
        Agreed, Delia is a devout Catholic. (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 17:11:32
        
        He may not be (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:45:19
        
        he has already denounced the racist aspect of fascism (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Apr 1, 15:50:52
    - Walk away (n/m) (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 1, 15:30:59
      - Too late (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:33:21
  - *after spending half an hour being the agressor, he starts pointing the finger (Other Football) - pants, Apr 1, 15:30:11
- Sunderland fans wont give a dam if he keeps them up (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 1, 15:08:47
  - I would give a massive fuck if we had a fascist manager (n/m) (Other Football) - Holy lambchop of god, Apr 1, 17:02:45
  - I'd give a fucking damn if we appointed a fascist as manager! (n/m) (Other Football) - BerlinCanary, Apr 1, 15:31:15
  - I would definitely give a fuck if NCFC appointed a fascist manager (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:17:04
  - It would bother me just like it bothered me... (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 1, 15:14:43
    - how do you feel about NCFC players that have been convicted of drink /driving (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 1, 15:19:34
      - Yep fair point (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:23:49
        
        has he said he supports the holocaust? (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:26:02
      - Drink/driving results in a ban of a year (if no one hurt).. (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 1, 15:23:34
        
        when is di canio's trial? (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:24:56
      - making a fair point is ALWAYS trolling (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:22:09
        
        sorry (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 1, 15:23:58
- Will you lot have a word with yourselves! (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:01:57
  - I offended tbh (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 1, 15:03:22
- where was all the outrage when he was managing swindon? (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 14:52:47
  - No one cared when it was a piss pot Lg1 team (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 14:56:42
    - meh... So he suppports Mussolini. (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 14:59:48
      - Oooooh here it comes! (Other Football) - King, Apr 1, 15:15:54
        
        this is potd (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Apr 1, 15:27:32
- Is Dan Hodges a Sunderland fan? (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Apr 1, 14:52:19
  - I was wondering.... Glenda Jackson's son apparently (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 14:57:57
- I think that his appointment is a disgrace (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 14:50:31
  - I think Labour party voters should be banned form managing in the Premier League (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Apr 1, 14:56:38
    - potd! (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 14:59:32
      - Why? (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:03:47
        
        He's trolling... (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 1, 15:12:05
        
        having a different view is always trolling lol (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:13:42
        
        not at all (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:07:56
        
        So you don't have a problem with the legitimisation of fascism via his appointment (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:14:50
        
        no none at all (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:20:19
        
        He's a fascist (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:13:20
        
        paedos abuse kids (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:16:42
        
        Yeah fascists have got a great track record with kids (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:21:39
        
        funnily enough the nazis awarded women who bore 4 children a medal (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 15:26:51
        
        yes i'm sure he supports gassing kids (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:23:10
        
        "a few silly views" wow (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:20:31
        
        Troll troll troll away, SCC's going to troll all day (n/m) (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 1, 15:19:22
    - What is wrong with people on here? (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 14:58:53
      - is he attempting to introduce it then? (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 15:09:41
      - Unbelievable innit. (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:04:21
        
        no place for communism either.... but The Guardian gives them a salary. (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 15:07:15
        
        Take a bow son... the stupidest thing I have ever read on the Wrath. (Other Football) - bird table, Apr 1, 20:47:09
        
        Wow,how much of a right wing loon do you have to be to react to an avowed fascist (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:15:57
        
        Hughton was a communist... (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 15:17:49
        
        should be sacked then (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 1, 15:22:35
        
        Except that he wrote a few articles in the 70s, and doesn't talk about it (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:26:21
        
        Here we go again... (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 1, 15:11:10
        
        Tbf, I don't think phrankin has had a Guardian / communist rant for a few weeks now (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 1, 15:13:38
        
        Haha (n/m) (Other Football) - King, Apr 1, 15:14:25
        
        does he mean communism or socialism? (n/m) (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Apr 1, 15:14:19
        
        the Guardian gives communism a salary?? (n/m) (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Apr 1, 15:09:45
        
        Richard Gott, Seamus Milne, Jonathan Steele (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 15:16:58
        
        What does this have to do with anything? (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 1, 15:19:59
        
        communists you meant then, rather than communism? (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Apr 1, 15:19:52
        
        Yes, The Guardian gives supporters of authoritarian soviet style communism a slalary (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 15:21:43
        
        Right so it's ok to appoint a fascist to a Premier League Club (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 1, 15:25:57
        
        The Guardian is a newspaper of the left.... and gives views to all creeds of Left (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 15:28:11
        
        well they shouldn't, but doesn't make Sunderland decision any better (n/m) (Other Football) - earlydoors, Apr 1, 15:31:51
  - fascist... communist.... all authoritarian wankers (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 1, 14:54:21

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