I know

But my point is that not everything is down to the manager (finishing quality on the day for example). In fact if you were to criticise Hughton the most obvious one is that we are too ambitious - Stoke got a result by basically not even trying to win, just playing for 0-0. However, staggeringly, most of Hughton's critics here seem to accuse him of the opposite.

Posted By: mr carra on October 7th 2012 at 17:12:02

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Stoke: Cameron, Shawcross, Huth, Wilson, Walters, Whelan, N?Zonzi, Adam, Kightly, Crouch (Other Football) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 7, 16:47:45
- Huth, Adam, Crouch (Other Football) - Old Git, Oct 7, 18:32:06
- Liverpool had 18 shots - last week they had 16 (Other Football) - mr carra, Oct 7, 16:59:57
  - shots stats are very misleading (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 17:01:33
  - look, I don't want to kick off a fight, honest - but what was the final score? (n/m) (Other Football) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 7, 17:00:47
    - I know (Other Football) - mr carra, Oct 7, 17:12:02
      - conceding after about 60 seconds was very ambitious (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 17:19:03
        
        Might not have conceded it if we'd had 10 men behind the ball from kickoff (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Oct 7, 17:21:15
        
        or had the ability to defend (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 17:23:47
- Is it not unreasonable to believe we can beat any side but not want wholesale change ... (Other Football) - APB, Oct 7, 16:56:35
  - What I mean is, losing to Chelsea is something that, in this form, 95% of teams will do. (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Oct 7, 16:57:51
    - Of course, and may will lose to Liverpool too (Other Football) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 7, 17:00:15
      - We played better than against them in either game last season (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Oct 7, 17:14:28
        
        you must be fishing (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 17:20:20
      - We were so bad I've hardly spoken about it. (Other Football) - APB, Oct 7, 17:07:21
        
        I'm not calling anyone any names, though I admit I'm holding some barbs for those (Other Football) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 7, 17:10:58
        
        I know you weren't calling me anything. Nor me you. (Other Football) - APB, Oct 7, 17:15:07
      - *many (n/m) (Other Football) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 7, 17:01:00
- The sooner people accept that Hughton is a long term appointment (Other Football) - Klobo04, Oct 7, 16:55:59
  - why would we keep a failed manager? (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 16:58:47
    - 'Failed' (Other Football) - Klobo04, Oct 7, 17:01:00
      - i'm talking about if we go down (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 17:02:16
        
        So am I (n/m) (Other Football) - Klobo04, Oct 7, 17:05:15
        
        If we go down that would be part of the 7 year plan (Other Football) - Butterworth, Oct 7, 17:11:44
        
        LOL (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 17:22:02
        
        Prudence with ambition and all that bollocks (n/m) (Other Football) - Butterworth, Oct 7, 17:24:37
        
        Let's just not go down (n/m) (Other Football) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 7, 17:07:18
        
        blimey (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 17:06:55
        
        My point is... (Other Football) - Klobo04, Oct 7, 17:11:18
        
        man city weren't expected to win the league (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 17:18:13
- suggs,you are 50 years old and ou want us to sack a manager after 7/8 games? (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Oct 7, 16:54:28
  - no, mate, read it again (Other Football) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 7, 16:58:44
    - How do you have a manager ready and waiting? (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 17:01:04
      - We don't: McNally does (should) (Other Football) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 7, 17:02:37
        
        Apologists?? Polarity of arguments in football is ridiculous, it really is. I'm out. (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 17:04:01
- Just from reading the updates it sounded like a horrible game (Other Football) - Huge Small, Oct 7, 16:54:13
- but it finished 0-0 last season (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 7, 16:50:53
- Ok (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 16:48:27

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