Nope. We lost Holt

Or the Holt of 2011-2012. He was the key player for us last season. Maybe he'll still come good. We got thumped at home by Liverpool last season, and by Man City, and we were humiliated away by Sunderland - the mighty Sunderland. Lambert tried disastrous tactics like parking the bus and a 3-man back line with Ward in the centre, and yet Hughton gets accused of being defensive and tactically clueless. We were outclassed, and that's the whole story.

Posted By: Higher Wrather on September 29th 2012 at 20:05:20

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This is the most sensible thing I've read on here today. I like (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Sep 29, 19:49:21
- absolute fucking bullshit we have a clueless manager who after 3-month's (NCFC) - Malkybarneedledick, Sep 29, 20:32:06
  - I missed most of CC, was Jacko injured? (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Sep 29, 20:33:40
    - no just a completely bizarre substitution, Jackson was our best player (NCFC) - Malkybarneedledick, Sep 29, 20:39:46
      - Oh in that case......... (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Sep 29, 20:42:37
- Funny how when Lambert came in and made us great, it was all about the manager (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 29, 20:21:40
- Rubbish (NCFC) - 51eve, Sep 29, 19:56:07
  - Lambert was a one off - we all knew that when we had him (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 19:58:35
    - 2011-2012 was a one-off. I knew that. And so dod Lambert, which is why he bailed (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Sep 29, 20:06:06
      - he also picked wes, fox, benno (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:14:40
        
        Although both Fox and Bennett have had injuries recently (n/m) (NCFC) - RootunTootunHootun, Sep 29, 20:17:24
        
        Convenient to forget that in the hysteria, though (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Sep 29, 20:19:56
        
        what was stopping them playing today? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:26:33
        
        They had better players than us. Not difficult to work out. (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:49:19
        
        which is why they will finish above us (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:55:49
        
        accept it, we ARE little. When you realise this, you may be able to come to terms with (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 21:03:10
        
        and they aren't injured now (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:19:28
      - Exactly. Shame a lot of fans don't realise that & quit the blubbing (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:07:50
        
        Ffs you probably thought Liverpool were a joy to watch today? (n/m) (NCFC) - 51eve, Sep 29, 20:14:08
        
        As I support Norwich, then no. (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:17:31
        
        Then..... (NCFC) - 51eve, Sep 29, 20:21:31
        
        I'm a realist. I knew we wouldn't even get close to last seasons levels. My expectations (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:28:38
        
        plenty of the liverpool team have played at a low level (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:31:51
        
        maybe but also Gerrard, Suarez, Agger, Johnson that you conveniently forget about (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:45:04
        
        agger was at brondby the same as mattias jonson (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:53:42
        
        They are all top quality players, accept it (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:54:58
        
        and all ours are bang average to shit right? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:58:01
        
        most of our players are, realistically, by Prem standard, at best, average, yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 21:00:59
        
        Average=middle. Middle of the table. Last season we finished 12th. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Sep 29, 21:11:14
        
        At best average. And as i said before i won't judge Hootun yet. He very well (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 21:13:20
        
        Johnson is a top quality player? lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Sep 29, 20:55:54
        
        Well he's good enough to be an England regular. He is better than our RB, no? (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 21:00:20
        
        News just in: England are shit. Playing for England doesn't make you top class (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Sep 29, 21:06:17
        
        I don't think he's shit and I think he is head and shoulders above Martin (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 21:08:04
        
        We could have done with signing a striker pre season (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 29, 20:31:44
        
        Everyone saw that, yet for some reason we got a reserve youth player from Spurs (NCFC) - RootunTootunHootun, Sep 29, 20:33:34
        
        A bit harsh to say three league one strikers, all three have good records at champs level (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Sep 29, 20:30:58
        
        not harsh - it's true. (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:43:42
        
        Yeah, let's just ignore the facts! (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Sep 29, 20:47:12
        
        Facts are they are league 1 players - None are prem class to be honest - except maybe (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:51:11
        
        so is suarez prem class? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:57:14
        
        He's Prem class, yes. Most neutrals would agree I think (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 21:01:50
        
        the stats suggest otherwise when put up against our league one cloggers (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 21:05:42
        
        That's stats for you (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 21:08:33
        
        Morison and Holt both have scored goals in the champs and prem (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Sep 29, 20:54:39
        
        our strike force comparitively with other teams is weak, as is most of the squad (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:59:02
        
        Doesn't make them league one players just because there are better strikers out there (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Sep 29, 21:03:07
        
        ok, they're not league 1 strikers - I did them an injustice (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 21:05:23
      - Yep, agree totally (n/m) (NCFC) - RootunTootunHootun, Sep 29, 20:07:46
- Reading (NCFC) - Pragmatist, Sep 29, 19:52:53
  - while we haven't lost 1 player we wanted to keep (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 19:55:14
    - "on paper" we have a stronger squad than last year don't we? (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Sep 29, 19:57:29
      - way stronger! (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 19:59:35
        
        What would be your selection and formation? (n/m) (NCFC) - RootunTootunHootun, Sep 29, 20:03:35
        
        loads of better ones were used last season (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:13:18
        
        Probably this.. (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Sep 29, 20:11:56
        
        When we were struggling, Lambert had more in his locker than a striker substitution (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 29, 20:19:36
- We came twelfth and improved the side though! (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Sep 29, 19:50:37
  - Nope. We lost Holt (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Sep 29, 20:05:20
    - Lambert earned the right to piss about and experiment tactically (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Sep 29, 20:21:19
    - he's still been involved in most of our goals (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:16:42
      - Lost Holt... He started this season poorly... Like every season he has had here?! (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 29, 20:17:46
  - but worsened the manager (n/m) (NCFC) - Pragmatist, Sep 29, 19:53:26
  - baffling isn't it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 19:53:25
  - team was on the slide well before end me the season, even under King Lambert (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 19:52:53
    - we had a tough run in! (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 19:54:29
      - we were on the slide - accept it. (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 19:54:58
        
        we were outstanding at arsenal and trounced villa (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 19:55:43
        
        what was our record last 3 months? (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 19:56:58
        
        WDL's (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:06:43
        
        11th to 12th (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:02:06
        
        In the form of Wins, draws and losses (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Sep 29, 20:08:46
        
        What does it matter, we had a tough run in and were already safe. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 29, 20:24:18
        
        Well in that case, if we're not going by WLD's (NCFC) - RootunTootunHootun, Sep 29, 20:36:55
        
        but it wasn't broken (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 20:39:35
        
        also won at spurs (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 29, 19:56:31

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