Actually I agree quite a lot.

We have a Fowler devotee on our team, and I have to bite my tongue quite often when he's off on one about methodology. He often needs to be reminded that it's about making ? not about making beautiful software that doesn't sell, and in that you just sometimes have to make compromises.

But, having said that, there's no harm in getting to know some patterns.

Today I have been refactoring a Json web service using "dependency injected TDD driven unit tests". Not in Ruby, in C#. Actually it's more like domain driven design, but it's certainly test-first work.

I think you have to apply a decent amount of bulls**t filtering when reading stuff by the Gurus, and just try to take out of it that which has value - because there's often value in there, even if it surrounded in manure.

Posted By: Arizona Bay on August 5th 2011 at 15:24:07

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Get the fuck in. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Aug 5, 14:43:57
- Are you a Martin Fowler fan? (n/m) (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 5, 14:55:21
  - He talks a lot of sense, but we don't see eye to eye on everything. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Aug 5, 15:00:10
    - I'm with him on that. (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 5, 15:03:17
      - It's here. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Aug 5, 15:11:26
        
        I find him like all these self-annointed gurus and share the bileblog's opinion (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Aug 5, 15:13:00
        
        Actually I agree quite a lot. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Aug 5, 15:24:07
        
        He's done well for himself since Pauline sold off that market stall (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 5, 15:31:16
        
        Pauline's dead and Martin moved away with Sonia Trumpet Face (n/m) (General Chat) - Huge 5mal1, Aug 5, 15:36:01
        
        whoa there (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 5, 15:32:17
    - he did all that after he left Eastenders? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 5, 15:03:03
  - He loves a good refactor. (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 5, 14:58:39
- Until you run it, and it just coughs and starts laughing. I'm all geeked up too cos (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 5, 14:49:47
  - I love it - no problems at all during the 30 day trial a couple of months ago. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Aug 5, 14:52:24
    - Haven't really used VS since the second .NET edition. Much prefer to use C# than (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 5, 14:57:39
      - Don't Novell do a .Net on iphone dev tool? (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 5, 14:59:22
        
        Mono. Yeah a mate of mine bought it - $399. Then was rather surprised when he (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 5, 15:12:32

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