I think you are thinking way too deep about this............

The fact you seem to admit that its a "rocky road" suggests some room for discussion.........

The problem with this kind of passive censorship is that it effects creativity when comedians are wondering if they will upset some group of people............

Can you imagine comedy that doesnt offend or upset anyone.......

cant talk about any religion, any country, any ethnic group any consumer product, any animal (animal rights will complain) any service (cab drivers will be offended by cabby jokes)

You can claim there is a line in comedy........but the line is blurred .....its different with every single person...... thats why so many people get in trouble for telling jokes which cross certains peoples lines.........
Just because it crosses your line dont assume it crosses everyones.........

And FWIW........ I defend your right to be offended.

As an example fro the Top gear thing, the stereotype thing is included along with the "mexican food looks like sick" quotes..........

Why is anyone upset by that quote?

He is being offensive about a "food"

Mr PC himself Ben Elton did a huge skit on Kentucky Fried Chicken..........he is not talking about Kentucky or the USA.............

Posted By: usacanary on February 10th 2011 at 21:10:14

Message Thread

Im really offended............... (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 19:51:10
- How is that at all similar to the top gun/mexico thing (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:11:56
  - Read your article on the train this morning, mate. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Feb 10, 20:29:23
    - cheers mate (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:30:58
      - Where can I read it? (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Feb 10, 20:35:31
        
        In When Saturday Comes magazine, got an amusing email from my dad today (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:39:09
      - I had a good idea for a story last night (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:34:36
  - Thats the point.............If they are both going for jokes........... (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:16:54
    - but if jokes like that are done without irony (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:18:39
      - maybe you are one of the people walking out.......... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:19:33
    - you'd like to think so... (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 10, 20:17:32
  - top gear I mean obviously, haha (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:13:38
    - TOP GUN............ go the gay way........... (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:22:45
  - top gun? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 10, 20:13:03
- Comedy.........One of the greatest comedy episodes of all time is......... (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:08:15
  - Germans. hehehehehehe (n/m) (General Chat) - Only1Doherty, Feb 10, 20:09:47
  - yes, but the stereotypical views are held by the idiot of the show (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:09:43
    - thanks, a part of me died when I read usacanary's post (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:13:14
    - Point.....you can be offended...... and it can still be funny (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:12:15
      - of course, but the whole point is showing how stupid these views are (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:17:22
        
        and in Top Gear you're not supposed to think (General Chat) - Charles21, Feb 10, 20:20:22
        
        I've seen their shit before, there's no irony there (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:22:47
        
        So you admit he was just going for shity cheap laughs......... (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:28:02
        
        I'm going to give up explaining this (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:32:38
        
        great counter point......... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:39:04
        
        I'm just repeating the same point over and over and you don't understand (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:40:19
        
        You dont think you might be going a bit OTT over a throwaway cheap gag. (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:46:51
        
        no because in my opinion these things run deeper (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:49:02
        
        I think you are thinking way too deep about this............ (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 21:10:14
        
        you may well be right and not the first time I have been accused of that (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 21:19:48
        
        You can knock them but the fact remains.......... (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 21:30:38
        
        I have enjoyed watching the show in the past (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 21:45:00
        
        quite, Top gear will be trying to makes us laugh next by suggesting that (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 21:26:55
        
        Don't spoil it for me, I haven't seen those ones yet. (n/m) (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Feb 10, 22:11:17
        
        agreed. The fact that there's no irony whatsoever makes me think (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:52:07
        
        come on, I don't need to explain what's wrong with racism for cheap laughs do I? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:31:06
        
        I need a list of all the subjects that are off limits to comedy..... (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:35:12
        
        come on think about it, ALL subjects are ok for comedy obviously (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:38:09
        
        You have the right to be offended............. (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:43:47
        
        lazy stereotypes without irony are just lazy stereotypes and have no humour value (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:50:23
        
        I laughed at the joke yet I dont think Mexicans are lazy........ (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 21:18:20
        
        I agree (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Feb 10, 20:20:09
      - try tellin pants that (n/m) (General Chat) - selwyn, Feb 10, 20:17:08
        
        What were you saying about stalking? (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Feb 10, 20:17:54
        
        nice to be stalked (n/m) (General Chat) - selwyn, Feb 10, 20:19:39
        
        Yeah, you probably think it's funny (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Feb 10, 20:20:27
        
        its funny when you take the trouble to do it (n/m) (General Chat) - selwyn, Feb 10, 20:21:27
  - probably wouldn`t get away with it these days (n/m) (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Feb 10, 20:09:21
    - it's still shown 'these days' (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 10, 20:17:21
      - exactly, while stuff like Alf Garnet and Love Thy Neighbour can't be re-aired (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:19:47
        
        ive got all the vids sambo (n/m) (General Chat) - selwyn, Feb 10, 20:22:16
        
        yes but (n/m) (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Feb 10, 20:22:15
        
        Even Alf Garnet ending up looking like a twat (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Feb 10, 20:24:16
        
        did he? Blimey, very good for that era. I can't remember much about it to be fair (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 10, 20:26:18
- oh no (n/m) (General Chat) - Huge Small, Feb 10, 19:53:48
- to be fair he is also a massive cunt (n/m) (General Chat) - Only1Doherty, Feb 10, 19:52:47
- Al Murray is a cunt (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Feb 10, 19:52:21
  - ^^^^^ Al Murray would be offended................ (General Chat) - usacanary, Feb 10, 20:30:01
  - I thought he was a made up character, based on the English stereotype. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Feb 10, 19:57:02
    - nah (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 10, 20:01:29
    - his real name is Al Murray (General Chat) - Charles21, Feb 10, 19:59:45
      - You're messing aren't you chazza? (General Chat) - pants, Feb 10, 20:06:36
        
        The Pub Landlord is an act, yes (General Chat) - Charles21, Feb 10, 20:08:05
        
        ahh, there's the angle you went on Chazza (General Chat) - pants, Feb 10, 20:10:23
        
        what? (General Chat) - Charles21, Feb 10, 20:12:28
        
        presupposition (General Chat) - pants, Feb 10, 20:13:15
        
        the Hell's Kitchen bit should've been the giveaway (General Chat) - Charles21, Feb 10, 20:17:51
        
        is that your new word? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 10, 20:14:59
        
        and discourse ethics (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Feb 10, 20:15:37
        
        the man's Oxford educated FFS !! (n/m) (General Chat) - Only1Doherty, Feb 10, 20:07:28
        
        I know (General Chat) - pants, Feb 10, 20:08:30
        
        No, I went to UEA (General Chat) - Charles21, Feb 10, 20:08:25
  - he was in the pub at qpr (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 10, 19:53:32
    - All hail to the Ale (n/m) (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Feb 10, 19:59:28

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