I think it would be worse if he was serious and not laughing.....

If he would have approached her privately and said "suck my cock" thats kind of a different matter.

Sure it was a joke in very poor taste.........looked a bit silly and tame to me.

As I said I am probably out of touch but it just seems that all over the world we are getting a bit too sensitive to jokes........

As I said if he was serious and approached in private thats real sexual harrasment in my mind.......... that video was just a joke in poor taste.........
Gray was trying to make the crew laugh, stupid yes.... offensive..... to some yes........ to most probably no..... keys and the crew laughed...... obviously not offended.

A lot of jokes offend people, thats the nature of comedy sometimes.

Myself and others made jokes about Goodwillie getting done for rape........... obviously rape is not funny in its own context but does that mean you cant joke about it even if it upsets someone?

I know for a fact that this hyper sensitivity costs women jobs in certain fields.

I know a guy who runs a local company who wont employ women in his factory because he is worried about getting sued for sexual harrasment.
He is not sexist in the least, he told me he thinks some women would do as good a job as men in his factory.

Posted By: usacanary on January 25th 2011 at 17:50:57

Message Thread

Is Keys staying? (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jan 25, 16:49:08
- The whole thing sounds kind of shitty............. (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:00:08
  - He deserved it, end of (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:05:09
    - And you would be sacked instantly for saying "disgusting fucking cunt" to anyone (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:10:32
      - not sure once a woman sent round an email at work (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jan 25, 17:18:58
        
        Its a double standard for sure......... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 18:13:06
        
        it is a bit much at times, but the joke Gray made surely made her feel very uncomfortable (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 18:19:59
      - That you are sticking up for the vile piece of sexist shit says a lot (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:18:07
        
        My point was not about Andy Gray............... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:30:27
        
        I am not salaried to post on this board (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:32:20
        
        So sexism or being offensive is ok as long as its off the clock......... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:57:30
        
        So you have never said anything bad while on the clock........... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:54:26
      - I said something almost identical to a female workmate (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 17:15:50
        
        I may have got it wrong, if I did I apologise.... (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:24:05
        
        Well, if the woman *is* a fucking disgusting cunt, then that's not sexism, that's accuracy (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jan 25, 17:26:16
        
        If she's black can that be mentioned? (Other Football) - harry boulders, Jan 25, 17:28:42
        
        Exactly (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:30:15
        
        it's fucking disrespectful to women. hth (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:28:04
        
        But its OK as long as you are not being payed ......... right....... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:59:03
        
        Well, yes, "cunt" is fairly disrespectful across the board. (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jan 25, 17:35:26
        
        You mean like calling Andy Gray a "disgusting fucking cunt" (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 18:01:09
        
        it's just another trolling dullard without the courage to do it under their normal name (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 18:07:30
        
        Equality is equality (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jan 25, 17:29:55
        
        precisely, I made no concessions due to her sex and said just what I'd say to a man (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 17:41:50
        
        If I hold a door open for a woman to walk through first. (Other Football) - harry boulders, Jan 25, 17:32:31
        
        no that's fine but you do know (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jan 25, 17:42:57
        
        no way (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 17:45:59
        
        exactly, there's more double standards in anti-sexism than any other topic (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 17:40:19
        
        I called her a fuckign inconsiderate cunt, and it was true and not sexist in any way (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 17:25:59
        
        You don't think using the term "cunt" is in any way wrong? (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:29:18
        
        no I don't (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 17:35:26
        
        oh do shut up (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jan 25, 17:32:27
        
        Are you a regular with a "new username"? (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jan 25, 17:30:31
        
        No different to calling a man a "disgusting fucking cunt" (Other Football) - duke of york, Jan 25, 17:25:00
        
        So, racism is abhorrent in your world but sexism is dandy then? (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:20:04
        
        please explain to me how is that sexist (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 17:21:04
      - Is it okay to make sexist comments to colleagues in your place of work? (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 25, 17:13:06
        
        You can't make sweeping statements about sexism towards women (Other Football) - harry boulders, Jan 25, 17:23:39
        
        i didn't (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 25, 17:46:03
        
        However.... (Other Football) - new username, Jan 25, 17:26:47
        
        Women aren't paid less, it's a myth. (Other Football) - harry boulders, Jan 25, 17:30:41
        
        I am probably way out of touch....................... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:21:47
        
        I think it's to do with Gray asking a female colleague to rummage in his trousers as well. (Other Football) - malkybarkid, Jan 25, 17:26:29
        
        I think it would be worse if he was serious and not laughing..... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:50:57
        
        You're forgetting that he's massively successful and doesn't need to work anymore. (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jan 25, 17:15:50
        
        Depends, some dirty bints lap it up. (n/m) (Other Football) - harry boulders, Jan 25, 17:15:35
    - A fucking big pay off probably (n/m) (Other Football) - harry boulders, Jan 25, 17:10:30
      - Depends what shit they have on him............. (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 17:15:59
- think so, he apologised apparently and they have accepted it (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jan 25, 16:50:32
  - it was the charlotte jackson stuff gray was done for anyway (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jan 25, 16:51:21
    - It doesn't make it right (Other Football) - WOTB_HaxBall_Champ, Jan 25, 16:57:46
      - Didn't look like she was laughing to me. Looked pretty disgusted. (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jan 25, 17:01:05
        
        Never mind disgusted, she looked HOT (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 17:10:23
        
        ... (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jan 25, 17:14:11
        
        I'd consider it (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jan 25, 17:16:41
        
        Ewww (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 17:16:07
        
        You should see her in person (Other Football) - WOTB_HaxBall_Champ, Jan 25, 17:20:12
        
        haha that's so airbrushed it looks like a mannikin (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 17:19:59
        
        She is lovely. (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jan 25, 17:11:04
        
        Looking back at it, she could have been laughing at something going on (Other Football) - WOTB_HaxBall_Champ, Jan 25, 17:03:28
      - probably laughing that she had the ammo to sack him (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jan 25, 17:00:18
        
        I doubt she's that bright (n/m) (Other Football) - WOTB_HaxBall_Champ, Jan 25, 17:01:00
        
        hmmm why's that? (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jan 25, 17:03:44
        
        OG will answer this (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jan 25, 17:05:32
        
        WOTB Haxball Champ doubts that Charlotte Hottie is that bright because he's a sexist (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 17:15:34
        
        I don't find her attractive (Other Football) - WOTB_HaxBall_Champ, Jan 25, 17:18:58
        
        Disappointing (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jan 25, 17:17:31
    - sexual harassment intut (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 16:54:14
      - Yeah, he'd have been on a sticky wicket with that one (Other Football) - duke of york, Jan 25, 16:56:52
        
        yep, and I imagine this is only the tip of the iceberg (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 25, 16:58:26
  - amusing really, seeing as he's said more (Other Football) - pants, Jan 25, 16:51:12
    - Probably waiting for something else to happen. (Other Football) - harry boulders, Jan 25, 16:53:05
    - ... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jan 25, 16:52:57
- fuckin hope not (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, Jan 25, 16:49:42

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