Ok, fair enough - maybe it's just my perception
And I do accept that your intentions are honourable even if I fel they tilt (inappropriate verb??!!) one way more than the other.
But to try and clarify my point a little, let me explain where I think the line should be drawn and what I think is acceptable/unacceptable.
First, the sad passing of scc's mum is a fact. It happened. And not only did it happen, pants originally offered his condolences. However, not only has he subsequently taken the piss with 'mummy' comments, he has also denied ever knowing about scc's mum. All pretty tawdry and all there to see in the last couple of days. Now THAT really flipped my goose. But it is only the latest in a long line of provocations. His rant about dead policewomen, the utter ridiculousness of 'fondue 1 paella 0' etc. I truly, truly believe he is a genuinely unpleasant person. On my life.
Second, your view is that scc uses 'mental health/alcohol' issues, that pants apparently admitted to, against him. Now I don't know if pants was ever an alcoholic or the extent of these mental health issues. If I have made references to drink it's been because his posts have appeared erratic. I have called him drunk... not 'a' drunk. It's a riff, nothing more. However, I do have a close friend who is a recovering alcoholic and the one thing I have seen, which I wasn't aware of, is the strong, almost unbreakable bond between him and others who have suffered in the same way. He says that only they can know what it is like to go through this. They become kin.
With this in mind therefore, I can't really understand why pants would insist on calling ME a drunk, Angie Watts, etc etc so readily, so easily. Would someone who had seen that dark place seriously throw that around at others? If he has had mental health issues, why does he call people mentalists? Nutters, Weirdos? etc.
Arganth, I genuinely try and play fair where fairness is merited and yes - it is absolutely not in doubt that, at times, scc, me and others have tried to draw a reaction out of him - just like he does to others. But I do draw the line across particular behaviours. Racism, threats of violence and insults that relate to family etc. Do scc's posts ever cross that line? No. Do pants's? Yes.
One final point. Just take a look at how people have reacted to pants across the past few days. I have seriously lost count of the people he has run-ins with, the trolls he starts - it's in to double figures. Scc? One person. One. Speaks volumes.
Posted By: The Judge on December 17th 2010 at 14:38:11
Message Thread
- BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 10:01:41
- you've taken an overdose? (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Dec 17, 10:11:27
- Go nuts, Judge. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Arganth, Dec 17, 10:16:57
- ... (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 13:26:27
- As expected. Trolls being trolls (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 13:54:45
- lol (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 14:40:34
- To be fair, you troll too. (Other Sports) - Arganth, Dec 17, 13:57:46
- Totally agree, which is what I said the other night (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 14:06:08
- "they say all the shitty things they condemn me for" (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 14:41:15
- Totally agree, which is what I said the other night (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 14:06:08
- oh, and in your link to arganth, you've been lying again. But I expect that these days (n/m) (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 13:56:54
- Ok! lol (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 14:41:33
- 3 lols? (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 15:40:26
- I'm now doing a 4th (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 16:41:03
- But I know, and you know, that none of them have actually amounted to any laughter (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 16:43:52
- Ok (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:19:24
- booo hooo pantsies said he doesn't like the police (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:27:28
- And while you're doing that (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:30:19
- will do (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:37:07
- For, I'd love it if this is your win, then you can move on tomorrow (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:38:12
- Yes (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:42:28
- Well I hope so (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:46:30
- I see (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:49:19
- I'm liking the old "do to pants what he does to me" (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:52:43
- Very interesting intepretation (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:55:23
- I'm liking the old "do to pants what he does to me" (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:52:43
- I see (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:49:19
- Well I hope so (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:46:30
- Yes (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:42:28
- For, I'd love it if this is your win, then you can move on tomorrow (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:38:12
- will do (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:37:07
- I'm now doing a 5th (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:28:27
- Good to see you're enjoying it (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:32:01
- And while you're doing that (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:30:19
- booo hooo pantsies said he doesn't like the police (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:27:28
- Ok (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:19:24
- But I know, and you know, that none of them have actually amounted to any laughter (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 16:43:52
- I'm now doing a 4th (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 16:41:03
- 3 lols? (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 15:40:26
- Ok! lol (n/m) (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 14:41:33
- Actually, I hadn't seen that, apologies. (Other Sports) - Arganth, Dec 17, 13:49:39
- Ok, fair enough - maybe it's just my perception (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 14:38:11
- "I genuinely try and play fair where fairness is merited " (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 15:28:06
- You're absolutely right (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 16:34:49
- It's been proved many times he is a wrong'un (Other Sports) - HoofinHughes, Dec 17, 16:46:15
- ayup (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 16:48:48
- Still yet to see any evidence that I told you to commit suicide (Other Sports) - HoofinHughes, Dec 17, 17:03:37
- instead you'll just make a load of shit up (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:04:42
- So there wasn't an incident concerning brandys top? (Other Sports) - HoofinHughes, Dec 17, 17:07:36
- No, I've never had brandy's top. (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:11:42
- Ahhh that was it, you claimed you didn't have his top (Other Sports) - HoofinHughes, Dec 17, 17:17:07
- lol, seeing as you know so much about this shirt, it was mine (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:19:52
- Ahhh that was it, you claimed you didn't have his top (Other Sports) - HoofinHughes, Dec 17, 17:17:07
- No, I've never had brandy's top. (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:11:42
- So there wasn't an incident concerning brandys top? (Other Sports) - HoofinHughes, Dec 17, 17:07:36
- instead you'll just make a load of shit up (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:04:42
- Still yet to see any evidence that I told you to commit suicide (Other Sports) - HoofinHughes, Dec 17, 17:03:37
- ayup (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 16:48:48
- The difference is though, you've allowed this to go on and on for months (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 16:37:03
- The difficulty is though (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 16:39:58
- But all that said (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 16:42:39
- Well that's your view and you are very much entitled to it (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:17:55
- So you don't pal up with people on here who say disgusting things? (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 17:24:37
- Well that's your view and you are very much entitled to it (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 17:17:55
- But all that said (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 16:42:39
- The difficulty is though (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 16:39:58
- It's been proved many times he is a wrong'un (Other Sports) - HoofinHughes, Dec 17, 16:46:15
- You're absolutely right (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 16:34:49
- "I genuinely try and play fair where fairness is merited " (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 15:28:06
- Ok, fair enough - maybe it's just my perception (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 14:38:11
- As expected. Trolls being trolls (Other Sports) - pants, Dec 17, 13:54:45
- ... (Other Sports) - The Judge, Dec 17, 13:26:27
- Go nuts, Judge. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Arganth, Dec 17, 10:16:57
- you've taken an overdose? (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Dec 17, 10:11:27
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