Technology in football (warning: long post)
What we need is to use technology in ways which improve the game. So we don?t want to slow it down: it?s a fast game, and there aren?t the natural breaks which eg cricket provides (the long pauses between deliveries make cricket ideal for TV reviews). It has to be kept moving. But we do want to try to use what?s available if we can do so without spoiling the game. So here are four ideas as to how we could do that.
Number one ? let?s have post-match video review to detect cheating. Either team will have the right to cite opposing players within (say) 24 hours of the match ending, saying which player(s) they are complaining about and for what. Offences you could complain about would include off the ball violence which went undetected, or simulation. Video evidence would then be reviewed by a panel. If the complaint is upheld, offenders will receive appropriate sanction, including retrospective yellows or reds.
If I could pick one reform this is the one I would like to see most, because I think that of all the evils which beset the game, simulation is the greatest. (You could pick a thousand examples but here?s one which really annoyed me ? Henry pretending he got elbowed in the face when the only contact had been with his chest User Posted Link ). The reform would not affect the results of games ? so if a player had dived for a penalty, or had faked being hit in the face with the result that an opponent had got sent off, then the review wouldn?t be able to change that. But it would deter cheating, especially if the penalties were made quite high (3 game bans or whatever).
Number two ? dealing with offside or handball appeals when a goal has been scored. I think we need a really radical reform here, and that where either (a) the defending team is appealing for offside or handball after a goal has been scored, or (b) a goal which has been scored is going to be disallowed for offside, the ref should ask a fourth official if there is any reason why he should NOT award a goal. This wouldn?t really hold the game up ? after all, you have to wait for a restart anyway. No-one plays on after the ball goes in ? the ball is dead, and one team celebrates while the other surrounds the ref or runs towards the lino telling him he?s blind. So the review exercise isn?t causing a hold up in play (and time could be halted while the review takes place). Then the fourth official looks at the replays, with (for offside decisions) that clever white line, and says whether the goal should be awarded or not, benefit of the doubt going to the scoring team.
Number three ? dealing with claims that the ball has crossed the goal-line. This is a little harder because if the ball did NOT cross the line then it?s still live and the ref has to keep he game moving. I think what should happen here is that if one team appeals for a goal, the ref should wave play on but should also ask the fourth official if he SHOULD award a goal. Play continues while the fourth official reviews the evidence. If he can?t tell, or if he can clearly see that the ball did not cross the line, then play just carries on: play has not been affected by the review. But if the review shows that the ball DID cross the line, then the ref halts play, calls them back to the moment it was scored, and awards a goal. It?s a bit like playing an advantage and then calling them back. There's no prejudice to the other team, because the evidence shows that they should not have been allowed to play on in the first palce.
Number four ? dealing with claims for whether it?s a goal kick or a corner. Where this is disputed there should be a review by the fourth official. I don?t see any problem with this ? the ball has gone dead anyway, so there?s no (or no material) hold up in play. I?m not sure whether this should apply to a disputed throw in ? taking a quick throw can be a real advantage.
So those are my ideas. I can?t see any real way to use technology to deal with a wrong offside decision where no goal was scored ? ie where the striker times his run perfectly and is about to go through for a one on one, but the whistle goes for offside and everyone stops, then the replays show he was onside after all. The only way to deal with this would be to make all offside decisions ?provisional? and I don?t think that works for the flow of the game.
Posted By: Old Git on June 30th 2010 at 11:21:58
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- Technology in football (warning: long post) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 30, 11:21:58
- ^^^^ vvvv None of this will happen. (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jun 30, 11:50:05
- ^^^It might do. It could go to show you never can tell vvv (n/m) (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 11:51:13
- Number Three - (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 30, 11:40:48
- Yeah but the ball is too big to use that to ensure that the WHOLE ball (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 30, 11:44:01
- Some company from Lowestoft reckons they are ready to do it (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 30, 11:55:57
- Did a story about that company and its goalline tech (Other Football) - jamesward, Jun 30, 11:56:56
- Some company from Lowestoft reckons they are ready to do it (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 30, 11:55:57
- Yeah but the ball is too big to use that to ensure that the WHOLE ball (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 30, 11:44:01
- Thoughts... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 11:40:42
- No 3 (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 30, 11:59:11
- You're saying play on are you not until the result of the query is known?.. (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 12:08:49
- football crowds waiting to a video decision acting like tennis or cricket crowds (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 12:12:09
- Which is why my version is better (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 30, 12:26:17
- Ah, yes, so the enjoyment everyone had waiting for the Leeds score to come through... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 12:18:14
- that isn;t the sort of thing that happens every week 3-4 times a game (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 12:28:43
- Yes, I know... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 12:32:51
- how often it's used will depend on what it's used for (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 12:38:49
- Indeed and I'm only talking about ball over the line or not controversy... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 12:41:42
- you might be, i'm not (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 12:53:17
- By introducing technology the uses for it are gonna be pushed fullstop... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 13:06:48
- what good would retro-active action do for Mexico or Ireland (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 13:14:56
- Because to punish everything would destroy a match... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 13:31:11
- chips in balls that register when the whole ball has crossed the line (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 13:42:48
- If I'm understanding what you're saying... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 13:58:51
- no, i'm against technology's scope being increased beyond whether a ball crosses a line or (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 14:08:05
- Dr Scrampton gave his Patented Argument Boots a good polish (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 30, 14:23:43
- no, i'm against technology's scope being increased beyond whether a ball crosses a line or (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 14:08:05
- If I'm understanding what you're saying... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 13:58:51
- chips in balls that register when the whole ball has crossed the line (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 13:42:48
- Because to punish everything would destroy a match... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 13:31:11
- what good would retro-active action do for Mexico or Ireland (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 13:14:56
- By introducing technology the uses for it are gonna be pushed fullstop... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 13:06:48
- you might be, i'm not (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 12:53:17
- Indeed and I'm only talking about ball over the line or not controversy... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 12:41:42
- how often it's used will depend on what it's used for (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 12:38:49
- Yes, I know... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 12:32:51
- that isn;t the sort of thing that happens every week 3-4 times a game (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 12:28:43
- football crowds waiting to a video decision acting like tennis or cricket crowds (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 30, 12:12:09
- You're saying play on are you not until the result of the query is known?.. (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 12:08:49
- No 3 (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 30, 11:59:11
- re: Number three (Other Football) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jun 30, 11:38:30
- Re: The only question is how the restart is done (Other Football) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jun 30, 11:41:25
- I've solved that - see above ^^^ (n/m) (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 30, 11:42:11
- Re: The only question is how the restart is done (Other Football) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jun 30, 11:41:25
- Change the rules. Instead of the whole ball having to cross the line, change it to (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 30, 11:37:19
- I think the extra goal-line officials (Other Football) - jamesward, Jun 30, 11:28:22
- ^^^^ vvvv None of this will happen. (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jun 30, 11:50:05
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