That frustrated me about Roeder. People had decided that he failed in his second season

and it became a self-fulfilling prophecy. People seemed to want him to fail and started reading stuff into what he said that wasn't there. This contributed to the general atmosphere of negativity aroubd the club, and he threw petrol onto that metaphorical fire.

I'm not saying we would be Premiership bound if he had had universal support from day one but we maybe wouldn't be in league one.

Posted By: jafski on May 13th 2009 at 14:38:23

Message Thread

New manager (NCFC) - camcan, May 13, 14:24:21
- Robins has been manager at Rotherham for 2 and bit seasons (NCFC) - nixon, May 13, 14:37:03
  - You are right but Robins is more a Rotherham man than he is a Norwich man... (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:40:42
    - because managing Norwich is a fecking big job in football (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, May 13, 14:49:20
      - division 3 club..... (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 13, 14:53:43
      - To us, yeah, but I'm not sure its seen as a really big deal otherwise. (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:53:24
        
        A great platform for a up and coming manager to turn the club around (NCFC) - nixon, May 13, 15:02:15
  - If he'd take it, i think he's the best option. Some will still scoff, but he has SOME (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:40:23
    - So does Calderwood. (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:42:01
      - No norwich connection. (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:46:23
        
        Norwich connection is the least important thing possible (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 13, 14:52:00
        
        Yes I know that, but others don't the point i'm making is that any manager will be (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:55:42
        
        true, but he's contracted so no chance I feel (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 13, 15:04:02
        
        agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 15:10:42
        
        Calderwood did well at nearby Northampton for a good while. (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:48:17
  - I do think he's done a good job in difficult circumstances (NCFC) - camcan, May 13, 14:39:10
    - we are the Newcastle of the East (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 13, 14:49:22
    - oh i completely agree with that, (NCFC) - nixon, May 13, 14:47:33
    - Agreed. (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:41:40
    - SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:41:08
- Depressing (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 13, 14:35:09
- THis is what worries me. Whoever we appoint will give someone a crushing sense of despair (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:32:30
  - That frustrated me about Roeder. People had decided that he failed in his second season (NCFC) - jafski, May 13, 14:38:23
    - there's a lot of truth in that (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 13, 14:42:41
      - For laying the foundations of our eventual relegation? High praise indeed. (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:47:25
        
        have you forgotten THE great escape already? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 13, 14:52:23
        
        Is that the one where an initial spark that took us within easy reach of the playoffs (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:55:11
        
        That's the one. That kept us up. When we were bottom. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:56:15
        
        But ultimately layed the foundations of our eventual relegation. (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 15:03:21
        
        well we needed to stay up in order to go down this season (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 13, 15:20:28
    - Aye, that was my stance from the start. Happy to say i laregly changed that (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:42:37
    - shame he was a complete cunt eh (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, May 13, 14:40:33
      - Not disputing that by the way. (n/m) (NCFC) - jafski, May 13, 14:43:23
  - I can't see us getting out of league 1 till next season at the earliest either. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 13, 14:34:09
    - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - malkybarkid, May 13, 14:36:37
    - 3-4 seasons is my reckoning (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 13, 14:35:42
    - *sigh* you KNOW what i mean, even Brom does, and he's not here. (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:35:24
    - I can (NCFC) - camcan, May 13, 14:34:45
      - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:36:54
- for that reason it makes Butterworth the logical appointment, he knows Div 1 (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 13, 14:31:54
  - how can you say Gunn isn't the answer (NCFC) - Charles21, May 13, 14:34:21
    - I don't know, Crook & Butterworh never had any real say in player acquisition (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 13, 14:38:56
      - David Carney. (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:42:32
    - same would go fot Worthy and Hamilton (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 13, 14:36:48
      - that's my point (NCFC) - Charles21, May 13, 14:42:09
        
        so lets not ever discuss anything again. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 13, 14:46:23
        
        no, feel free to discuss (NCFC) - Charles21, May 13, 14:50:20
        
        insanely angry were does that come from, Bristol? (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 13, 14:52:14
        
        no, there are some angry people out there (NCFC) - Charles21, May 13, 14:54:19
    - Beat me to it! (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:34:59
- They need to bust a gut to get a lucky one in, I reckon. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, May 13, 14:25:22
  - I don't buy this lucky thing though. (NCFC) - jafski, May 13, 14:34:21
    - Oh God! The refs are going to be even worse. (NCFC) - Small, May 13, 14:38:39
      - Gunn was still moaning about ref decisions this morning. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 13, 14:41:17
    - Gunn lost Wes and Croft to injury, Bertrand and Drury to injury before charlton. (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:36:43
      - Deal with it though, it's how they deal with it. Et unt. (n/m) (NCFC) - jafski, May 13, 14:39:33
        
        Well no, cause worthy never had to deal with it did he? (NCFC) - megson, May 13, 14:45:02
  - you see I reckon the second Ferguson might be lucky (NCFC) - camcan, May 13, 14:27:35
    - No guarantee Fergie would be a success (NCFC) - Charles21, May 13, 14:30:52
  - agreed, Worthington I always thought was a lucky manager, in the end it ran out though. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 13, 14:26:58
    - which happens (NCFC) - camcan, May 13, 14:28:03
      - YCNHTMM was not bad luck. Simon Charlton in the Makele role was not bad luck. (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:32:35
        
        You've done it (NCFC) - camcan, May 13, 14:34:14
        
        Its one of the ultimate trump cards. Any others? (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 13, 14:43:18

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