Absolutely unbelievable - the sheer lack of self-consciousness

There were *so* many things wrong with that post about Cloughie - not least suggesting that Mourinho lacks charm (he has buckets of it) - but going on a football website and comparing Brian Clough to Byron, and then being surprised and annoyed when people take the piss out of you for it ...

Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on August 20th 2005 at 00:34:30

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Wotb top 5 of 2005 - so far (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:25:01
- Makes me glad to be a vegetarian after the ... (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 20, 01:00:39
  - If ever the cry goes up (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 20, 01:04:26
    - lol ... n/m (n/m) (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 20, 01:08:20
- I've never understood Letchworth PK (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 00:34:27
  - agreed (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 20, 00:57:01
    - you love me really Mikey. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 01:04:10
  - I think he's this "Roberts Jelly Jism" below as well - definitely his style (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:35:17
  - I am a nice lad! (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:35:05
    - If you're so nice ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:37:20
      - simple (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:39:24
        
        Yeah, it was just a joke, I wasn't demanding a justification! (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:41:34
        
        deffo (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:42:49
        
        Couldn't you just put him on your Ignore List? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:43:52
        
        who? Himsworth? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:44:16
        
        Yeah - just a joke, of course ... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:45:25
    - But Letchworth... (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 00:37:12
      - Yeah, that was Greeno's fault though. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:37:43
        
        Robert Green? How? (n/m) (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 00:39:24
        
        sigh... (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:40:49
        
        Ahh yes I remember now, sorry (n/m) (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 00:44:48
        
        no need to apologise (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:46:26
        
        Oh really? (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 00:47:56
        
        I suspect not - did you read that article in the Guardian today ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:49:39
        
        who knows! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:48:28
        
        Makes you wonder how much the players read this, doesn't it? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:47:21
        
        however - steven sidwell is keen to leave reading.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:48:54
        
        I'm glad you asked that.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:40:16
        
        he refused to have his photo taken (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 20, 00:42:02
        
        with a "fuck" and an "off" (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:43:28
    - I'll vouch for that.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:36:46
      - indeed! (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:38:02
        
        I'll agree to disagree with you there (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 00:43:54
        
        Clare... (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:48:00
        
        I know what you mean and kind of agree (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 00:56:20
        
        But if he'd responded with "It's just a joke" he'd have gotten away with it ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:02:33
        
        Oh absolutely (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 01:04:13
        
        Vicious circle though - he wouldn't be criticised so often if he wasn't so defensive (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:08:17
        
        But some of the critics have met them (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 01:12:23
        
        Yes, that's exactly what happens. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:17:09
        
        that's true too (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 01:11:35
        
        Spaff!!!! (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 01:16:53
        
        "Spaff" (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 01:20:27
        
        I just read that and started laughing uncontrollably. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:26:35
        
        Agreed ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:14:32
        
        Gareth old bean (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 20, 01:19:50
        
        And of being condescending, and of assuming the role of "wise old sage". (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:25:03
        
        Well you haven't got time have you? (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 20, 01:29:03
        
        What an odd remark. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:30:00
        
        Not odd - just referring to this (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 20, 01:37:15
        
        Sorry, I was too busy thinking about Cloughie's Romantic period (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:39:19
        
        I hope so (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 20, 01:42:42
        
        Send me a text or something - going with my old man again though (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 01:44:29
        
        Your old man (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 20, 01:49:43
        
        Well for what its worth (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 01:18:10
        
        yes - his name is Chris Jakeman. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 01:19:54
        
        LOL (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 01:32:12
        
        ponce :op (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 01:15:51
        
        but he didn't mean it as a joke!! (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 01:02:18
- Sarah's 'clit' post (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 20, 00:33:26
  - oh yeah. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:34:27
  - that surely wasn't this year? (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:34:24
    - it was the first week of january (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 20, 00:35:20
      - wow had that down as ancient history.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:36:18
- don't forget byronic brian clough.. (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:29:23
  - That's my No. 1 I think - amazing! (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:31:47
    - Interesting.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:32:19
      - Absolutely unbelievable - the sheer lack of self-consciousness (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:34:30
        
        continued when.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:38:07
        
        That's the beauty of it - no back-tracking, just feverish digging (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:39:35
        
        ditto otto.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:41:29
        
        I mean ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:43:26
        
        It is the simple logic.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:47:51
        
        I think Gary Holt was closer to McGonagall last season ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:50:30
        
        that's true.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:54:05
        
        I missed all of this... (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 20, 00:49:15
        
        Here you go: (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:53:33
        
        until you reminded me.. (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:56:53
        
        Just to clarify (on reading my post back): (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:56:06
        
        brilliant. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:54:36
        
        Brian Clough apparently!! (General Chat) - camcan, Aug 20, 00:53:29
        
        cloughie (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Aug 20, 00:53:24
      - i think PK needs another... (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:33:10
  - ahhhh too many...turn it into a top 10! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:30:14
- might take 5) out and replace with c_gaz being exposed though. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 00:25:54
  - Yeah, c_gaz has to be in there (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 20, 00:31:22
    - Life's strange isn't it? (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 20, 01:11:10
      - good point, well made. (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 20, 01:14:22

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