Worthy is a decent guy, and can get decent guys to respect him and play for him

Therefore getting the best out of them.

Trouble is, IMHO, that can only take you so far, and at some point real tactical talent is required, which is what i'm not sure Worthy has.

Also, eventually, i don't think 'liking' the gaffer is enough, players have to have confidence in his ability.
It will work for a while but its an emporers clothes thing. At some point one of them may well start to say "well, he got that wrong, does this guy actually know what he's doing?"

All of this could also apply to Gunn, so it will be interesting to see how him and his team develop.

Posted By: megson on April 2nd 2009 at 11:00:31

Message Thread

can see why delia wanted to bring worthy in now (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 10:54:22
- Non Iron's home exploits are largely the result of an excellent campaign by the IFA (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Apr 2, 11:12:40
  - Plus - (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Apr 2, 11:31:26
    - "Bowlin' Warney!" (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Apr 2, 11:36:03
    - the aussie wicket keeper? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:32:11
  - and because Windsor Park is a really unpleasant sh*thole to play in (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 11:16:38
    - But that's been true forever. (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Apr 2, 11:19:50
      - what did they do to improve it? (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:21:51
        
        I forget the name of the scheme (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Apr 2, 11:25:23
        
        probably this (NCFC) - south, Apr 2, 11:39:55
        
        interesting (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:26:28
  - but I seem to remember people saying that Northern Ireland were doomed (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:14:22
- but in true Worthy fashion they are still sh*t away from home (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 11:06:25
- His predecessor at Norn Iron was doing alright too. Then he went to Fulham. (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Apr 2, 10:56:42
- trub is..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 2, 10:56:40
  - Worthy is a decent guy, and can get decent guys to respect him and play for him (NCFC) - megson, Apr 2, 11:00:31
    - that's just the story for any manager (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:04:37
      - Moyes? Big Sam? Few do it though because normally, if they are succesful (NCFC) - megson, Apr 2, 11:44:19
    - well we've been there and done that with worthy. (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 2, 11:01:54
  - mark hughes and ian rush did ok (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 10:59:22
    - but they were good. (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 2, 10:59:54
      - so was Worthy (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:00:29
        
        one word... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 2, 11:02:16
        
        so brian clough was a bad manager (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:03:14
        
        no.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 2, 11:04:35
        
        or he was a drunk who had lost the plot (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:06:48
        
        and that. (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 2, 11:12:21
        
        he won a championship with fairly average players (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:02:15
        
        stop talking to yourself (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:05:02
        
        I know you are not the same person, (NCFC) - megson, Apr 2, 11:45:17
        
        i agree (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:49:08
        
        Nah, Disagree, mine are the best, best poster on here IMHO. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Apr 2, 11:53:24
- Yawn. It didn't work when you posted it under your other username (NCFC) - megson, Apr 2, 10:56:00
  - You've got to love the whole "we're right, everyone else just can't see it" mentality (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 11:04:57
    - To be fair though, you could be describing yourself by that post (n/m) (NCFC) - HoofinHughes, Apr 2, 11:36:39
    - ^^^ irony (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:05:47
      - 40 seconds (lollage) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 11:09:55
        
        I'm sorry, when I read a post about myself (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:12:49
        
        p.s it's 50 seconds (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:14:36
        
        Sorry's good (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 11:14:32
        
        stop trying to wind me up, it won't work (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:15:38
        
        Ahem... (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 2, 11:18:45
        
        lol quality from charles there (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:21:34
        
        I apologise in advance here but (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:19:46
        
        The point is that perhaps you ought to practice what you preach. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 2, 11:25:29
        
        pants is trying to wind me up today (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:31:52
        
        Well perhaps if you stopped winding him up, you wouldn't feel he was doing the same to you (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 2, 11:38:18
        
        to be honest, I think you've hit the nail on the head (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 11:49:43
        
        Have another go (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 12:00:03
        
        you too... (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 12:02:54
        
        I thought you'd finished for the day (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 12:01:34
        
        I had, but you've made another assumption (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 12:11:15
        
        Like others (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 12:22:29
        
        how did we suck you in? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 12:25:06
        
        I apologise (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 12:19:01
        
        It's been quite a big year so far for me (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 12:30:23
        
        jeez you take stuff way too seriously (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 12:33:31
        
        I didn't expect you to try to understand how broad letting go is (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 12:34:57
        
        thinking people hate you is another one (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 12:37:26
        
        i take the piss out of brandon and otto on here etc (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:56:55
        
        Never met ? We used to sit 5 seats away from each other... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 2, 12:05:43
        
        i was talking to charles (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 12:07:58
        
        I think it just comes down to knowing your audience (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 2, 12:04:53
        
        I've finished today (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 11:41:33
        
        you're ingi's lunchtime entertainment (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:43:13
        
        don't forget sanctimonious (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:33:04
        
        but charles was taking the piss out of a dumb point (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:27:08
        
        Self-fulfilling prophecy... (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 2, 11:28:29
        
        well we are right (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:31:05
        
        Jolly good. When do you start ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 2, 11:34:01
        
        that you're one of the wittiest posters on here (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:22:57
        
        Not the first time you've jumped to the wrong conclusion (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 11:17:21
        
        i thought you were the one who started this? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:10:43
        
        Reasoning with you, is like trying to convince a Leeds fan that Hughes is rubbish (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 11:12:43
        
        you didn't try reasoning (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:14:14
        
        I didn't try, for a reason (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 2, 11:14:55
        
        ps has this ever happened before (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:12:38
      - ^^loving your work (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 11:08:40
  - what did that have to do with delia? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 10:58:38
  - apart from........ (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 2, 10:57:57

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