(by the way, this isn't actually true

eg this study by the Dept of Transport from a couple of years ago:

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"A tiny proportion of accidents involving cyclists are caused by riders jumping red lights or stop signs, or failing to wear high-visibility clothing and use lights, a government-commissioned study has discovered.

The study, carried out for the Department for Transport, found that in 2% of cases where cyclists were seriously injured in collisions with other road users police said that the rider disobeying a stop sign or traffic light was a likely contributing factor. Wearing dark clothing at night was seen as a potential cause in about 2.5% of cases, and failure to use lights was mentioned 2% of the time.

With adult cyclists, police found the driver solely responsible in about 60%-75% of all cases, and riders solely at fault 17%-25% of the time."

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on November 22nd 2013 at 11:47:16

Message Thread

Cyclists - it's all your own fault... (General Chat) - Pixelman, Nov 22, 11:10:51
- There's just a general impatience and intolerance on the roads these days (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Nov 22, 11:56:00
  - Dead right, its like dodgems out there most days! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Nov 22, 12:02:06
  - He might have killed you! (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 22, 12:00:27
  - haha. Agree with this - therefore nicely done. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 11:57:42
- In my experience it is usually their own fault. (General Chat) - South stand corner, Nov 22, 11:25:56
  - (by the way, this isn't actually true (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 11:47:16
    - without needing to refer to govt studies common sense dictates surely... (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 22, 11:56:13
    - Too many big words (General Chat) - norway, Nov 22, 11:53:44
      - Please tell me norway has an opinion on this. (General Chat) - South stand corner, Nov 22, 12:26:31
      - he'll be far from the only one on here who will refuse to hear it (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 11:56:59
    - Well played, stats boy (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 22, 11:49:43
    - I nearly hit a pedestrian the other day crossing a zebra crossing (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 22, 11:49:12
      - Knowing you, you did a handbrake turn and got her from the other direction (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 22, 11:50:37
        
        I was only doing about 5mph... (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 22, 11:58:54
  - Well now, who would have thought it (General Chat) - norway, Nov 22, 11:42:46
    - arf (n/m) (General Chat) - Pixelman, Nov 22, 12:00:30
    - do you still love ME though Norway? (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 22, 11:58:49
      - xxx (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Nov 22, 12:15:20
        
        GOOD. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 22, 12:20:57
  - Erm... (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 11:36:57
  - What, in your experience of killing cyclists? (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:26:31
    - No in my experience of having them do (General Chat) - South stand corner, Nov 22, 11:57:54
      - Although this is clearly a wind-up... (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 12:10:28
        
        whilst it was well put.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 22, 13:43:15
        
        Nicely put. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 12:16:44
      - And how do you respond to the actual *facts* on this, ssc? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 12:01:36
      - "fair game" that should go down well in court (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Nov 22, 12:00:54
    - lol. And South stand corner is usually such a lovely chap, too. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 11:33:32
- Wow (General Chat) - Duck, Nov 22, 11:15:51
  - It's a shared road and a shared responsibility... foolhardiness (General Chat) - Pixelman, Nov 22, 11:32:46
    - Same here driving through Cambridge on Monday night around 10:45 (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Nov 22, 11:38:29
    - You probably wouldn't have been (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:34:06
  - Fundamentally, there are bad and inconsiderate drivers out there (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 22, 11:21:50
  - Sadly it doesn't seem to make much difference how you ride (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:19:30
    - Sorry, 'want's is a bit strong (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:20:19
      - Twice in London I have had vehicles swerve at me trying to hit/intimidate me (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 22, 11:30:18
        
        Cycling or driving whilst wearing headphone is dangerous, end of! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Nov 22, 11:53:22
        
        Depressing isn't it. (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:37:21
        
        They do you know! (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 11:40:55
      - I always imagine that most cycling deaths arise where cyclists are to the left of HGVs (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 22, 11:24:37
        
        Undoubtedly not going up the inside saves people (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:26:06
        
        That's just incredible (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 22, 11:27:56
        
        I'm a cyclist I also drive (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Nov 22, 11:42:36
        
        Nobody pays road tax - it was abolished in 1937... (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 11:47:36
        
        Good point (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Nov 22, 11:51:52
        
        I only ride in daylight, and even then have a flashing rear light on if solo... (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 11:56:58
        
        I have cycle commuted in London for 9 years (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 12:00:11

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