Did they listen to the prison officer before they let him out

systemic failures accross the board

As usual (like Ian Huntly)

Same s**t, different year, no progress

Posted By: pants on July 13th 2010 at 16:43:56

Message Thread

manchester city going to spend plenty more this window... (NCFC) - loz, Jul 13, 15:48:01
- I've heard they wanted Raoul Moat (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jul 13, 15:53:06
  - He's got a cracking shot on him. (NCFC) - tudders, Jul 13, 15:57:28
    - Just when the police couldn't get any lower than attacking vulnerable people laid on the (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:06:03
      - were you there? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 13, 16:28:15
        
        My wrath's gone bent-up again (n/m) (NCFC) - Tron, Jul 13, 16:54:05
        
        My wrath's gone bent-up again (n/m) (NCFC) - Tron, Jul 13, 16:53:38
        
        My wrath's gone bent-up again (n/m) (NCFC) - Tron, Jul 13, 16:52:51
      - But remember everyone... (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Jul 13, 16:20:42
      - he had killed one person, attempted to murder a woman and shot a cop in the face (NCFC) - no one, Jul 13, 16:15:02
        
        Unlike De Menezes who deserved 7 bullets for co operating (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:25:18
        
        Completely unrelated of course. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Jul 13, 16:26:06
        
        Except in both instances a crime has been committed (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:32:40
        
        Correct. But in this case it was Moat who had commited the crime. (NCFC) - tudders, Jul 13, 18:21:03
        
        Yeah I get that (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:17:24
        
        forces a joke (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 13, 16:35:52
        
        an eye for eye leaves both men blind (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:39:57
        
        I think there's a lesson there for us all. (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 13, 16:52:21
        
        Or if someone decides to leave their house one day to get the tube (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:55:02
        
        Indeed. Best for everyone just stay at home (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 13, 17:01:18
        
        But when the system fails on a regular basis, as it has done here (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:08:16
        
        you might be a bit young to remember this one pants (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 13, 17:17:51
        
        I remember that one (NCFC) - Monty Peculiar, Jul 13, 17:51:33
        
        yeah, they clearly wanted the bloke dead. I think the man they confused Waldorf with had (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 13, 17:58:32
        
        This is what I don't understand. If someone rang you now and said (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:13:00
        
        walk into a police station and give yourself up (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jul 13, 19:54:58
        
        yo go to the Sun and get them to persuade everyone you're not dangerous (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 13, 18:17:15
        
        ha ha, I suppose if it did happen, (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:19:30
        
        Just put it on Facebook, much easier. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Jul 13, 18:19:22
        
        or wrath, we'd help you out (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 13, 18:30:35
        
        I don't remember that. I do remember this innocent lad being shot though (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:25:19
        
        that's very fucking out of order by that account (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 13, 17:32:01
        
        You must have got a great view of it all unfolding (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 13, 17:10:32
        
        ha ha (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:19:53
        
        point is that it's a bit hard to opine without know what really happened (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 13, 17:21:58
        
        True, it's good to be cautious as well (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:31:22
        
        even when they're found to have acted improperly (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 13, 17:36:39
        
        This is kind of my overall point to this (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:40:43
        
        I don't really have any idea what happpened with moat, but it doesn't yet seem (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 13, 17:46:27
        
        *they're not* (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:31:50
        
        You don't know, pants. You might be right, but you don't know what happened. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 13, 16:35:08
        
        Did they let his family talk to him? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tron, Jul 13, 16:38:00
        
        but you don't know a crime was committed, do you? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 13, 16:43:30
        
        I wasn't (n/m) (NCFC) - Tron, Jul 13, 16:45:37
        
        I don't know (n/m) (NCFC) - Tron, Jul 13, 16:42:50
        
        did they let Gazza talk to him? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 13, 16:39:13
        
        I don't know (NCFC) - Tron, Jul 13, 16:45:08
        
        Did they listen to the prison officer before they let him out (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:43:56
        
        did the prison officers play it too safe with their risk assessments of prisoners as a who (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 13, 16:55:14
        
        Man with shotgun slightly less vulnerable than man without, I'd have thought. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Jul 13, 16:17:59
      - What actually is your point with this, other than being contrary? (NCFC) - tudders, Jul 13, 16:14:43
        
        Waited for him to give up (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:23:15
        
        Eeerrr....he killed himself, or maybe, (NCFC) - tudders, Jul 13, 16:25:09
        
        talked things through over a can of lager and some chicken (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 13, 16:17:31
      - Oh well. Suppose it saved the tax-payer one bullet. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 13, 16:14:41
        
        Except the public enquiry will probably cost a fortune (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:52:43
        
        And saved Gazza a can of lager, KFC, fishing rod and a dressing gown. (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 13, 16:15:31

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